VPR3 wrote:I can volunteer some time or service if HTS needs it.
JoeyPardella wrote:In my opinion it is not solely a lack of activity, leadership or whatever that keeps the active user count low. A far more important issue is in my eyes who you want to adress with this site. I mean the "constant stream of noobs" as I think it was referred to is still steady, but those users won't stay because everyone around here is tired of repeating the what-to-learns and beginner tips.
What would get users to stay is more coding discussions, more theoretical stuff about security topics and so on. A decent security expert won't stay on HTS very long as also pointed out by others because it has nothing to offer, besides the missions that might be fun. But again, more technical content and people might hang out. And that's exactly what Goatboy delivered. I know you all remember that recent thread where somebody asked to check his website and then, OH here's a picture of me with admin rights on your website. that was fun and had some practical aspects we are all looking for.
Vulpine wrote:With so many people wanting to be uber hax0rz, why should they choose HTS over HackForums or the IRC channels for groups like Anonymous? After all, we offer learning and links to Google. HF and AntiSec groups offer LOIC and other point-and-click solutions.
mShred wrote:As i know most of us here do, i feel HTS needs Goatboy.
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Monica is _gone_
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here, you'll see what i mean.
acevic wrote:Kage is missing over half the time, barely visits the forums and there is nobody to supervise this site.
LoGiCaL__ wrote:Pretty much with everyone on this one. Maybe instead of one more mod to replace goatboy, how about 2 to offset the others down time?
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.. and have people meet in the lecture room on irc, then someone can host a ventrilo so you can have comms. That's basically what the lectures were anyways.
acevic wrote:I'd no idea how this was carried out prior to this. And it's not the easiest thing to organize when you have practically no support from the staff. The only reason I wished to carry out that lecture was to bring part of HTS back to life. Have a look at my post count, feedback and compare it to my time of registration. Relative to most members, I have attempted desperately to bring life back into HTS and like always, it usually ended up in a pointless IRC session with the staff who are not even informed of what is going on with HTS. I've seriously made my best attempts to contribute to this community, but you can't help if you're not allowed to.
Vulpine wrote:With so many people wanting to be uber hax0rz, why should they choose HTS over HackForums or the IRC channels for groups like Anonymous? After all, we offer learning and links to Google. HF and AntiSec groups offer LOIC and other point-and-click solutions.
Kage wrote:irc.hackthissite.org #lecture -- Get on IRC, and throw some ideas out. Anyone is allowed to help, but the key problem no one understands is no one wants to or is capable of it. Ask our biggest critic, Wells. He was super gung-ho about reviving RTB, wrote half the code, then fucked off. When asked if he would continue, "Nah, idgaf, I'm lazy." That sums up about 90% of former HTS staff. 5% were deemed incapable, and the remaining 5% were successful and moved on after a lengthy stint of great assistance. It's not that we don't want help, it's just we want capable people who aren't recalcitrant assholes.
mShred wrote:Kage wrote:irc.hackthissite.org #lecture -- Get on IRC, and throw some ideas out. Anyone is allowed to help, but the key problem no one understands is no one wants to or is capable of it. Ask our biggest critic, Wells. He was super gung-ho about reviving RTB, wrote half the code, then fucked off. When asked if he would continue, "Nah, idgaf, I'm lazy." That sums up about 90% of former HTS staff. 5% were deemed incapable, and the remaining 5% were successful and moved on after a lengthy stint of great assistance. It's not that we don't want help, it's just we want capable people who aren't recalcitrant assholes.
This is what I'm trying to get at, HackThisSite needs more of the "5%" people. To get what needs to be done, done. To keep HTS going the way it's supposed to go.
Kage wrote:HackThisSite is not and never will be Anonymous nor LulzSec. We do not promote illegal activities, nor do we immediately provide the means to accomplish such. We are an educational website that caters to learning and instructing users how to further teach themselves (ie. providing "links to Google"). If you want blackhat hacking, join Lulz or something; this is not the place for that.
Kage wrote:acevic wrote:Kage is missing over half the time, barely visits the forums and there is nobody to supervise this site.
What the fuck are you talking about? You are absolutely terrible with observation. Not only am I on HTS over 2+ hours per day, almost every day, but I also have systems in place to monitor and alert me in under 5 minutes of any problem erupting. Just because I don't post daily or speak constantly in IRC doesn't mean I'm inactive. You are assuming based on insubstantial "facts."
Kage wrote:acevic wrote:I'd no idea how this was carried out prior to this. And it's not the easiest thing to organize when you have practically no support from the staff. The only reason I wished to carry out that lecture was to bring part of HTS back to life. Have a look at my post count, feedback and compare it to my time of registration. Relative to most members, I have attempted desperately to bring life back into HTS and like always, it usually ended up in a pointless IRC session with the staff who are not even informed of what is going on with HTS. I've seriously made my best attempts to contribute to this community, but you can't help if you're not allowed to.
irc.hackthissite.org #lecture -- Get on IRC, and throw some ideas out. Anyone is allowed to help, but the key problem no one understands is no one wants to or is capable of it. Ask our biggest critic, Wells. He was super gung-ho about reviving RTB, wrote half the code, then fucked off. When asked if he would continue, "Nah, idgaf, I'm lazy." That sums up about 90% of former HTS staff. 5% were deemed incapable, and the remaining 5% were successful and moved on after a lengthy stint of great assistance. It's not that we don't want help, it's just we want capable people who aren't recalcitrant assholes.
Kage wrote:Vulpine wrote:With so many people wanting to be uber hax0rz, why should they choose HTS over HackForums or the IRC channels for groups like Anonymous? After all, we offer learning and links to Google. HF and AntiSec groups offer LOIC and other point-and-click solutions.
HackThisSite is not and never will be Anonymous nor LulzSec. We do not promote illegal activities, nor do we immediately provide the means to accomplish such. We are an educational website that caters to learning and instructing users how to further teach themselves (ie. providing "links to Google"). If you want blackhat hacking, join Lulz or something; this is not the place for that.
Gatito wrote: Sanddy on the other hand seems to be trolling the forums rather than moderating them recently... In the end I agree with everyone that HTS lacks staff, at least in the forums. I remember acevic wanted to give a lecture about social eng. and seeing as there wasn't any official notice about it I bet it never aired (correct me if I'm wrong) which is ironic as staff urged that if you want a lecture make one yourself and when acevic takes the initiative nobody's there to make it happen (again correct me if I'm wrong).
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