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I'm someone else looking for advice :D

Post by OneFuckLess022 on Tue Aug 16, 2011 9:44 pm
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I am primarily interested in learning HTML, have started very recently looking into it, following the tutorials on w3, and been trying to figure out more than these sites are offering for me (or maybe i am just limited by what i can find :/). I feel as though the most valuable use of my time would be found in lending it to HTML for it's vast potential, power, and immediate applicability HOWEVER, i am hitting roadblock after roadblock in my "studying". Tips? Comparable languages that i should look into for insight into HTML? I am lost, and i feel if the effort towards learning does not pay off (not directly "pay off" per se, just knowing i have a grasp on things would work) rather soon i may become disinterested in this strong and very influential field. Simply, no entiendo, i no undastan, and that is what is keeping me from my brain being turned on by HTML... Please help!
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Re: I'm someone else looking for advice :D

Post by tremor77 on Wed Aug 17, 2011 7:43 am
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HTML is just a website design language, by itself it does nothing all that spectacular besides arrange text and images about on a page. Integrate with Javascript to gain more functionality. Learn PHP to become a sorcerer.
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Post by OneFuckLess022 on Wed Aug 17, 2011 11:22 am
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Okay, sense, it makes enough. Where do i want to get the bulk of my "practice" in, and what would (should) "practice" entail? I just want to make sure i know what i'm working towards. Oh, thanks btw for helping
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Post by centip3de on Wed Aug 17, 2011 1:45 pm
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OneFuckLess022 wrote:Okay, sense, it makes enough. Where do i want to get the bulk of my "practice" in, and what would (should) "practice" entail? I just want to make sure i know what i'm working towards. Oh, thanks btw for helping


If you're working on programming, then you should work towards whatever you want to program. As for your "practice" just try do harder and harder things in whatever programming language you happen to pick. There's no list that says; Make button appear -----> Make textbox appear ------> Send textbox input to button -------> Make MessageBox appear ---------> CONGRATZ U WINNN!!!!!!! . No. Programming is an art form like any other, you're not working toward any goal besides becoming a better programming. Nobody will tell you what to do, though we might tell you what would help progress your learning, that's about it.

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Post by OneFuckLess022 on Wed Aug 17, 2011 7:17 pm
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I agree on the perspective of it being an art, but i disagree in that there should not be a technique learned before hand and practiced. If someone practices drawing stickfigures for 5 hours a day, it doesn't seem as though it'll help that someone draw anything in the "Pencil art spectrum" save for... very "articulated" stickfigures. I'm just wondering if there is a technique that i should be learning actively, and practicing. All i have set myself up to do is to overview and page through all the lengthy pages of HTML tutorial. I'll just keep looking. Thank you anyways
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Post by centip3de on Thu Aug 18, 2011 9:26 am
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OneFuckLess022 wrote:I agree on the perspective of it being an art, but i disagree in that there should not be a technique learned before hand and practiced. If someone practices drawing stickfigures for 5 hours a day, it doesn't seem as though it'll help that someone draw anything in the "Pencil art spectrum" save for... very "articulated" stickfigures. I'm just wondering if there is a technique that i should be learning actively, and practicing. All i have set myself up to do is to overview and page through all the lengthy pages of HTML tutorial. I'll just keep looking. Thank you anyways


Well you have a point. I'd suggest going and learning Python, Anything with a 'C' (C, C++, C#, etc.) , ASM, Java/Javascript, PHP, Pearl (Perl?), HLAsm, Fortran, or really anything besides HTML. HTML is the equivalent of stick figures in programming, while with any of these, you can really draw yourself a beautiful picture. Hope you enjoy your stay at HackThisSite =)

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Post by mShred on Thu Aug 18, 2011 3:08 pm
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OneFuckLess022 wrote:I'm just wondering if there is a technique that i should be learning actively, and practicing.

Good habits for while you're picking up a programming language would be to do projects. While you progress deeper into the language, start harder projects.
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Post by centip3de on Thu Aug 18, 2011 3:47 pm
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mShred wrote:
OneFuckLess022 wrote:I'm just wondering if there is a technique that i should be learning actively, and practicing.

Good habits for while you're picking up a programming language would be to do projects. While you progress deeper into the language, start harder projects.


While we're on the subject of 'good programming habits'...

@OP, ALWAYS, ALWAYS, ALWAYS, use proper commenting, variable declaration, and function declaration, or when you go back to the 1050 line project 3 months later, you won't be able to understand shit.
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Re: I'm someone else looking for advice :D

Post by Prince Of The Elite on Fri Aug 19, 2011 12:50 am
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Well, I've passed these hard days before. Whenever I'm stuck and don't know what to do, study, learn, ...., I have a quick view at HTS. The way I look at this issue is, you're self teaching yourself and that's quite an enjoyable experience but after all you need someone to lead you through this huge world of computing. I suggest whenever you want to know what to learn next just try to solve a new challenge, or maybe take a look at the forum. Try to read others code and compare them to yours, learn how to improve your code so it functions better or faster, learn new techniques, or finally make a post :). Python is a good start as programming language, yet it's very powerful. It's fun also to develop your own simple games as a way to improve your skills ;)
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Re: I'm someone else looking for advice :D

Post by OneFuckLess022 on Fri Aug 19, 2011 1:56 pm
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Thanks all, really appreciate the help, I'll post again if i get stuck!

-- Fri Aug 19, 2011 6:38 pm --

Oh hey! I already have a burning question. Firefox. My email is not receiving any of the emails i am sending it, or should be sending it -yes, indeed i am still on b5 *herpderp*- I have started work on going through all the Java tutorials i can find, and it seems to me as though the problem lies inside the browser, for now i am going to download IE(newest version), but Firefox still has my heart lol, how can i get it to register CORRECTLY what i am trying to tell it to do?
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