[I am and always will be pro-life]
I believe that life begins at the first beat of the heart, (on the 20th day after conception) and from then forward when the body of the child pumps its 'own' (blood within the body cavity at that moment in time) blood (being filtered through the mothers liver/kidneys of course) through its limbs- it is alive. I believe that that even under situations where there was a rape, the woman must make her choice then, and not 3 weeks later (If you are on the "pro-death" side that is). There are reasons for date rape kits, counsiling, and day after pills.
Do you think that men who are raped should be treated equally?
Did you know that if a man is raped, and the woman who raped him becomes pregnant- the choice to keep the baby is 100% hers? He has zero rights, and the baby has zero rights. Sperm, spit, gum (the consumable flavoured candy), bodily wastes (urine, etc..), sweat, and blood are no longer considered part of your autonomy once they leave your body, and can be used by anyone- for anything- no matter the way of gathering it. Cut someone and steal their blood- they cannot do anything about what you do with it, only about the fact that you took it.
Speaking of autonomy, what makes us autonomic? Do you think that a baby that is one day old, is more autonomic than a fetus? what about to that guy in the next room who has been in a 6 week coma? Autonomy is the method by which we currently decide whether something can make choices for itself or not. Its quite possibly easier to prove that a "crazy" person is less autonomic than a person in a coma, who cannot even speak. (there is a section of one of my psych books that has the exact definition, and requirements to beconsidered worthy of life currently- I will look it up)
I want to ask the next woman to get a abortion this question,
"if you get this abortion, we will kill the man in a coma behind you. do you still want it? because you are now making the choice for three lives, not just two, however two of the lives are in the same state of conciousness." (conciousness to a point- most EEG's show slight brain activity in coma patients resembling sleeping, and fetus' have a similiar form of sleeping-causes kicking, etc..)
Ask someone that, see how they react, I will bet that most women will reply that it is absurd and that they dont even know the person in a coma- nor have the right to pick when he/she dies. (huh... sound familiar?)
As for the woman, if she was "pro-death" (or blindly called pro-choice) then she would make the choice whether to risk getting pregnant or not, and if she did, she made that choice. You cannot go to a black jack game and bet, lose, then change your bet so that you come out winning. You choose, you lose. You abstain, you remain.
I actually got into an arguement over this with a few female friends of mine (3 were pro-death, 1 was pro-life), the pro-life one said that we should make the choice before we make the risk. The 3 pro-death ones all agreed 100% that they would like the "option" (AN OPTION????) to be able to have an abortion if they wanted one. Even if the baby did not pose a distraction to or inhibit normal daily activities in their lives, they would still want to be able to 'get rid' of the problem without having to tell their parents or having to stress over it. I was then told (by all 4- including the pro-life friend) that because I can never give birth (I am male), I do not get to have an opinion on the matter. Furthermore that I should not have any choice, even in marriage as to whether or not to keep a baby.
I think that society once tried to protect the female gender, and now it is just growing out of hand, and is being abused. I do not believe that a woman has more or less rights over a un-born baby then the male counterpart. Furthermore, I do not believe that either males or females have any choice at all- once the baby is at the point where the mother can no longer push blood through the body of the fetus, and it has to do it for itself or it would die, the choice to stop life has come to a close. A fetus/baby is NOT part of a womans body.
Two people, born together at the hip, sharing parts of their body, they both have 2 legs and 2 arms, but are just connected through a kidney that they share. Neither of these people are considered to have rights over the other persons arms or legs. Why should a baby have to give up its whole body to the woman when they are only connected through 1 tube? They share the tube as the people share the kidney.. divide that up if you want after the baby is born, Im sure the woman wont want it (umbilical cord).
Follow rules, don't bend them for your own purposes (sounds backwards in comparision to the site/community this is, but in RL- this is true). Women push the limits of abortion every day, when there are already plenty of laws against it, just not formally stating "no abortions."
I am the abortionater! I have come back to stop Sarah Conor having her baby. *holds shot gun to vagina* This will hurt alot. *Bang*.
Say all that like the terminater.
I think woman should be aloud to get abortions, its their choice. And the baby is just living tissue like a scab, how many people keep their scabs?
A scab is actually not living tissue, it is dead tissue- if the fetus/baby had died on its own, then yes it could be removed. Do you, godofcereal, cut off parts of your body? say a finger? then keep it? I doubt it. Think before you speak.
I think for this matter, maybe abortion needs a better definition. Maybe an abortion should be the removal of a dead fetus, or a fetus without a heart yet? Then sure women can have the choice, as long as men get to also. However if the fetus/baby is still alive, and functioning, then no one should have the "choice".
This is only the tip of my views. But I will stop here because I need to be up in 5 hours.
I would highly suggested thinking about what I have said before you reply, whether in agreement or in difference.
**Disclaimer, Anything stated above is only an opinion and to be treated as one. Nothing above is ment to change your own personal views, but maybe to jog them. Nothing above is meant to be offensive or sexist.**
**EDIT - Fixed Typo**