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Post by iistapp on Wed Mar 24, 2010 2:21 am
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How do you set up a botnet? (not a step by step guide, but just wondering like how.)
Is it hard?
Is a botnet simply a bounch of computers infected by a virus?
If so what virus are we talking about?
What can you do with a botnet?

Would love some answers as I've read some stuff about huge botnets taking down sites, but I don't get it how one computer and command all these other computers.. So yeap, would love some answers :)
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Re: Botnet

Post by tgoe on Wed Mar 24, 2010 10:41 am
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Here is a good talk about the Storm botnet from the guys that reverse engineered it to see how it worked.
http://mirror.selfnet.de/videos/25c3/ipod_original/25C3-3000-en-hacking_into_botnets.m4v
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Re: Botnet

Post by sanddbox on Wed Mar 24, 2010 5:50 pm
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iistapp wrote:How do you set up a botnet? (not a step by step guide, but just wondering like how.)
Is it hard?
Is a botnet simply a bounch of computers infected by a virus?
If so what virus are we talking about?
What can you do with a botnet?

Would love some answers as I've read some stuff about huge botnets taking down sites, but I don't get it how one computer and command all these other computers.. So yeap, would love some answers :)


1) No, it's fairly easy.
2) Yes. A botnet is a bunch of computers referred to as 'zombies'.
3) There are various viruses.
4) Most of the time; DDOS shit. You could also use them for cloud computing or take control of their computer (depending on the capabilities of the virus).
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Re: Botnet

Post by DamegedSpy on Thu Mar 25, 2010 7:24 pm
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Botmasters are generally SKiddies so yes it is "easy" to develop a botnet. Though all depends on your coding skills.(Don't look at me. I am still a newby<- Correct word to use.)

Depending on the malware you developed you will get control of the computers. You can basically do whatever you want with the that people do with computers. You can even use it to store data.

It doesn't matter what virus bu what it was made for.
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Re: Botnet

Post by iistapp on Sat Mar 27, 2010 4:18 pm
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tgoe wrote:Here is a good talk about the Storm botnet from the guys that reverse engineered it to see how it worked.
http://mirror.selfnet.de/videos/25c3/ipod_original/25C3-3000-en-hacking_into_botnets.m4v


Thanks, I'll check it out asap :)

-- 27 Mar 2010, 22:23 --

But to set up a botnet, you simply make a virus and spread it right?

And if I happen to be in control of loads of computers and decide to store data on them, would I be able to access that data all the time or only when the computer I "own" is turned on, sort of like a server?
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Re: Botnet

Post by sanddbox on Sat Mar 27, 2010 4:53 pm
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Think about it. If the computer is turned off, how can you communicate with it?
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Re: Botnet

Post by iistapp on Sat Mar 27, 2010 5:17 pm
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sanddbox wrote:Think about it. If the computer is turned off, how can you communicate with it?


Yea well, that's what I thought, just had to be sure :)
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Re: Botnet

Post by cilpolir on Sun Mar 28, 2010 2:35 am
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sanddbox wrote:Think about it. If the computer is turned off, how can you communicate with it?

that isn't entirely true, I've heard of some BIOS option to turn on, (Wake-on-LAN) (wiki link) If you can spoof that packet you can turn a computer on on your demand :twisted:
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Re: Botnet

Post by iistapp on Mon Mar 29, 2010 7:50 am
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Interesting, is this easy to detect? Might try it out on my own computer =)
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Re: Botnet

Post by DamegedSpy on Tue Mar 30, 2010 12:47 am
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It all depends on you.

Polymorphic malware is harder to detect. However it is also a little harder to code.
You should dominate a language before trying to do malware.
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