weekend hacker wrote:I think a couple of people need to die first, preferably children, before anyone starts to care.
Please explain what you mean by this, are you saying that until the government starts ruthlessly killing people, no one will even bother to get off their couch for this?
Also, I agree that swinging the internet's opinion won't change much, but a good hack against the government servers and systems would cripple their abilities to coordinate attacks against resistance movements, don't you think?
Yes, that is exactly what I'm saying.
And sure some hacks might be useful to get some much needed attention. And skillfull people can definitely help setup secure communications. But down servers will not stop them from cracking down on whoever they want to crack down on. In case of a real fight those skills are perhaps best used in the real world.
Ex: secure communications, pointing big ass lasers upwards
in an attempt to blind spy sats, disrupting their communications with jammers or other technology, autodail their phone lines to help break down their communications, etc etc
Some of these may be internet related but most wouldn't involve getting access to government servers. And when you do have access to some of their servers.. maybe its best to not tell anyone about it but try to use the information you find in the field instead of bringing something down or doing other visible things.
I wouldn't advice doing any of these things, and even if you really want to you should wait until a revolution is needed. For now there are other peaceful ways to get your government to listen to you. Stick with those and don't give them an excuse to expand their abuse even more.
centip3de wrote:United States currently has one of the best if not the best legal systems out there
I hate to go there but... you must be an American.
Every country in the EU has this, and every country that calls itself democratic pretends to aspire to this.
I think the problems mentioned in this video are that the US is moving away from the standard seperation of powers(legislature, an executive, and a judiciary). Shitty laws will not be apealed, you will not have the right to a fair trail(or any trail). All they have to do is use the T word and they can do whatever they want with you. The judiciary branch is being kept out of the loop for as many things as possible.
As for internet freedoms, ISPs don't want to block sites. They are being forced to block sites, thats quite a difference.(and a dick move)
But not as bad as the huge systematic privacy invasion thats going on. If you use a social network, there are plenty of words that you will often use that'll get you flagged(which means your conversation will get stored in some gov database). If you want to give me a call, our conversation will get recorded, transcribed and then stored for future reference(because I'm a foreigner, so you lose all rights). If you're traveling out of state and have your mobile phone with you, you will get flagged.
All those are automatic and already in place. Now if for some reason someone in lawinforcement wants to target you specificly(for instance if you broke up with his daughter) they can, they don't need a warent, and they don't ever have to mention that they did it. And if someone uses the T word, they can simply skip all that and shoot you.
These things seem like huge problems to me.
And I know you guys have never had fascism, or life under stasi rule. But those memories are still fresh enough here in europe to not want to go there ever again and to always watch out for those signs.
centip3de wrote:That means that 90% of the government is doing things completely right! Sure, we have issues, but those can and will be fixed (look back over the years at the injustices that have existed in America and that were fixed, in comparison to today).
Lets all be happy for this. 10% of evil seems high though, I'd like to believe its lower then that. The problem in my opinion would be that it only takes a very small amount to have some serious consequences(ex: bossman sais spy on civilians, the 99 people working under them are simply doing their job. As seems to be the case in the NSA right now, only its a lot more then 99 people). And if I look at those injustices of the past as you say.. the US has been horrible at fixing those things. It seems to have taken decades if not more for it to correct itself. And right now it isn't moving forward but backwards.. I have no idea how they'll somehow change their backwards momentum. Add to that that the political scene has changed, money talks more then it ever has.
So yeah hate to say it, but you guys are doomed.