mookalovesgloop wrote:simply, plainly--there is *NO* biological basis for homosexuality...there is no way for a gay couple to facilitate the continuity of the human race through normal biological means. and i'm sure it's no surprise to anyone that gay sex, especially between males is...well...hard on the body. there a host of diseases associated with homosexual sexual relations that just aren't found (with any notable recurrence) within the heterosexual community...i'm not talking about AIDS here, a google search using the term "diseases associated with homosexuality" will shed more light on what i'm talking about...
I'm gonna start with the diseases part, I found it hard to find unbiased results with that term on google.
I seem to get a lot of propaganda websites, and if I wanted those I'd look for the flying spaghetti monster kind not the you are going to hell kind.(all hail our pasta overlord!)
So lets try to use our head here instead of overly relying on references.
There are a lot of STDs in the world(not to mention the different strains of the same stuff).
A lot of people use condoms not out of fear of an STD(she said she's a virgin, she can't have an std! <- lol) but to make sure you don't get anyone pregnant. Bacterial STD's can be cured, a virus or worse a baby is something you're stuck with for life.
So assuming we're talking male on male sex here, and combining the unsanitary parts of sticking it in someone's ass(where we have so many germs) along with the lack of motivation to wear a condom then statistically we should be seeing more STD's in the gay community. Which is something that seems to correlate with reality. Same with 2 females.. somehow a lot of lesbians are under the assumption they can't get an STD, they're wrong. Now besides there being more STD's, most of these spread through contact.. to the place where you had contact... So yeah.. there are going to be some gay specific diseases, although the specific part would probably more be the location and symptoms not the actual bacteria or virus that caused it.
So kids, be smart, always use a condom. And maybe also... be gentle.
Also helps to not be a (man)slut tbh :\
Now on to the biology part, if you mean in the way of the age old question, what is the point of life?
Then yes, I'd answer simply; The point of life is to create more life.
Which is something that can't be achieved directly with human homosexuality.
Unlike the lucky Whiptail lizard (and a lot more species, but that lizard does it A LOT and males are quite rare in the species) where the females can reproduce through
parthenogenesis. Which is a fancy way of saying, they give birth after having lesbian sex.
Homosexuality is very common in nature, although until some decades ago it was almost never documented. It seems a lot of scientists ware scared of "being ridiculed by their colleagues."
There is a fine article about homosexuality in the animal world on wikipedia right
here.
wikipedia wrote:No species has been found in which homosexual behaviour has not been shown to exist, with the exception of species that never have sex at all, such as sea urchins and aphis. Moreover, a part of the animal kingdom is hermaphroditic, truly bisexual. For them, homosexuality is not an issue.(
20)
Back to humans..
Although homosexual human couples can't make their own babies, they CAN adopt or use a surrogate mother or sperm donor. When looking at the purpose of life, this might lead some people to go into a nature/nurture debate.
If you raise a kid is he going to be more like you then if you simply provided the genetic material?
And isn't that kind of the point of creating life, to have it somehow be like you.. only better? Would you not love your stepchild the same as your other kids?
I for one hope to one day create sentient life, and even if I succeed biologically I'll still also try to make the first lifeform that is totally artificial. (yes, my robots will one day be your overlords, or your children's overlord, or their children....)
I like to think that as humans we've evolved enough to the point that a lot of who we are is based on education/experiences/etc, not so much genetics(although its not to be ignored eather). We don't differ all that much from the first humans, but have had the good fortune of living in a time where we get to understand so much more of the world.
So will homosexuals or creators of alternative life forms really have created life?
I'd like to say yes. But I'm sure people will argue about this as it makes their creation of life(or lack there of) seem less special.
But we can definitely say that gay couples with kids are doing their part to "facilitate the continuity of the human race"
Lets also not forget some other very important thing, love. It does crazy things to our head, totally messes up our brain chemistry and can make us feel awesomely good, or horribly bad.
If you're in love, does any of the above really matter?
mookalovesgloop wrote:consider the child born into a black family in rural mississippi in 1947 versus a child adopted by a gay family...indeed both children will be harassed, subject to ridicule and all sorts of problems throughout their lives, but the WHY is the determining factor...there can never be an argument posed as to whether blacks are doing something outside of the natural order of life or IMMORAL by being born black or being enslaved/colonized by an oppressor...a group of people who choose to live aberrant lifestyles, well, how upset can you be when you get what you sign up for....
unless of course, you mean to suggest that homosexuals DON'T have a say in whether they will be gay or not...as though it is some kind of disorder (though there is evidence which suggests this may indeed be the case, consider those who have overcome their homosexual desires through self-solicited psychological counseling)
I wouldn't go seeing it as some kind of disorder. A disorder would imply there is something wrong with it, its an unnatural state or has some kind of cause. And as mentioned above, it happens in nature a lot.
It all depends on what you are attracted to, not just what you want to be doing, so I would not say that homosexuality is a choice. Just as I wouldn't say that black kid in 1947 had a choice in where he was born.
Although obviously there are exceptions with people acting gay to fit in with other gay people or wanting to be different, just as a gay guy could pretend to be straight to fit in with straight people.
I'm sure everyone has met "that girl" that is "liek totaly lesbian" that is when she isn't fucking random guys. Pretend gay doesn't tend to last though, there's no point in lying to yourself, just as there's no point in pretending you're straight when you're not.
As for those so called psychological counselling, they are usually organised by some sort of religious institute, its no more then an attempt at brainwashing. Almost all of the mainstream mental health organisations in the states have renounced this. I believe it is now(or in the procces of being) banned in California, at least for teens. These things seem almost as bad as some of those american prison camps for troubled youths. "Having trouble with your kid? Even though he has committed no crime? You can send your kid to prison today!" parents sending their kids to prison without laws being broken.. really nasty places with rapes and beatings.. :\ that shit is pretty bad but is for a totally different discussion.
So as far as choice goes, the only choice is if you lie to yourself and to the world, or tell the truth.
And in my opinion you should never have to lie to make some other people happy.
As for another biological connection to homosexuality I'll give only this last quote from wikipedia
Wikipedia wrote:Male
Drosophila melanogaster flies bearing two copies of a mutant allele in the fruitless gene court and attempt to mate exclusively with other males.
(18) The genetic basis of animal homosexuality has been studied in the fly Drosophila melanogaster.
(84) Here, multiple genes have been identified that can cause homosexual courtship and mating.
(85) These genes are thought to control behavior through pheromones as well as altering the structure of the animal's brains.
(86)(87) These studies have also investigated the influence of environment on the likelihood of flies displaying homosexual behavior.
(88)(89)
mookalovesgloop wrote:you have the opportunity to witness firsthand what a homosexual person's experience is like outside of babylon (the usa)
Did you just call an admin a faggot and get away with it? Well played.
A picture of lesbian bitches to end this:
