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mShred wrote:TL:DR.
Dude.. I respect your opinions and all, but I this IS a hacking forum.. Idunno, maybe it's just me, but there are plenty of ethical forums out there...![]()
But nah, capitalism, runs the world, don't like it, deal wid it. Yeah. Idunno if this was more of a informative posting or not.. If you want, you could probably actually contribute some of your ethical knowledge through an article. Hence theWill be continued...
weekend hacker wrote:There is in my opinion modern day slavery, but this is usualy based on debt, not capitalism in itself. The principle of this is that if someone owes you money, you own them until they pay it back. Make the debt large enough so they can't possibly pay you back and then you own them for life. If you're one of those people who wants to own someone else then this method is best done on a large scale: give a country a loan and demand the money only be used on development of corporations of your own nation, along with overstating how much growth that development will create and no mather how many generations pass they will owe you money and will have to follow your rules.
This is done time and time again to countries who have natural resources by countries who want them often with horrible consequences.
This always passes as capitalism but as stated before is simply legalized crime.
On the other hand, making loans illegal like in medieval times also seems like a bad idea.(based on religious rules: jews had no problem with it and is part of the cause of the irrational hate. knights templar also didn't care which is why they had money and why the king of france who was hugely in debt had them.. taken care of)
People should be able to get loans, or give loans. Just make sure they are rational and informed choices.
Don't indiscriminately loan to anyone, but hear them out and make an informed decision. If they end up not being able to pay you back it can be because of your lack of judgement or interest in their situation, or because they lied and overstated their future proffits(possibly because they have bad judgement in their own situation).
And don't get yourself in debt because you want the fancy car, you're just screwing yourself over and I have no sympathy for these people.
weekend hacker wrote:The ruining of countries is ofcourse an extreme example, so lets look at another extreme like old world communism.
This was truly modern slavery: you own nothing, you will work where told, you live where you are told, you will eat what you are told and you will speak what you are told. Break any of those statements and you will be 're-educated'. During re-education you will basically have to follow the same rules but in worse conditions and they get to hurt or kill you if its not good enough. I dislike the idea that if everything belongs to everyone, everyone is rich. People stopped caring, stopped taking pride in their work and did the absolute minimum required to not get killed. The basic human nature of improving your life in every way possible was stomped out of people, some not even having basic survival instincts and would rather die from a lack of handouts then plant some potatoes.
footyfrak wrote:Well... It is true that Communism was a totalitarian dictatorship. No communist world has never truly existed. There are only people, the so-called revolutionaries, who get the support of the majority of people with the idea of communism. Then they set up a dictatorship without interest in anything but their power.
footyfrak wrote:Yes, that is slave machinery. Its a slavery on a large scale. It's like a new way to conquer the world. Well, in my opinion its a capitalism - not something that is not part of the capitalism. Its more accurate to say that the modern slavery is based on debt which is caused by private banking system - true. But it IS capitalism - If there were no private banks then there would not be capitalism.
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