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Post by comperr on Fri Jul 04, 2008 1:37 pm
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I am starting a thread where members can record there experiences and history of HackThisSite as it happens, as they remember it, and what people's feelings are regarding HTS's future. This is not to be a changelog, a join list, or anything like that. This is to be serious postings in paragraphs.
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Re: HackThisSite History

Post by Karec on Fri Jul 04, 2008 1:53 pm
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Updated: July 12, 2008

Hack This Site History:

Timeline of HTS Admin Staff:

Head Administrators/Figures:
Jeremy a.k.a. Xec96 (??? 2003 – September 2006)
Silent-Shadow a.k.a SS (September 2006 – November 2007)
Zod/Archaios/ScrAm (2007/Period of Disunion)
Kage (2007-2008)
Developers/Administrators:
Mcaster (???)
Html (???)
Archaios a.k.a. Arch (? 2002 – August 2006)


Hulla-Balloo:
http://web.archive.org/web/20020726150535/http://www.hulla-balloo.com/ (Archived Version of Hull-Balloo, predecessor to HTS)
http://web.archive.org/web/20030622135708/http://hulla-balloo.com/ (Archived Version of Hulla-Balloo after HTS was created)
http://web.archive.org/web/20030424190453/www.hulla-balloo.com/hack/ (Early version of HTS as an Extension of Hulla-Balloo)

Websites Related to HTS History:
http://htshistory.wordpress.com/2007/12/09/ice-shamans-history/ (WordPress Copy of Early HTS History Written By IceShaman)
http://htshistory.wordpress.com/2007/12/10/silent-shadow/ (WordPress Copy of The Troubles During Beginning of Silent-Shadows Site Admin Position)
http://web.archive.org/web/20070403040842/www.hackthissite.org/news/view/386 (Archived Version of HTS Troubles During Beginning of Silent-Shadows Site Admin Position)

Jeremy/Xec96 Related:
http://www.criticalsecurity.net/index.php?showtopic=18979# (Locked Critical Security Topic Involving Protest Warrior Incident and Free Jeremy! Movement)
http://www.gtaforums.com/index.php?showtopic=203496&st=0 (GTA Forums post by Former HTS Staff Member “AciD” Sharing Opinion of Protest Warrior Incident)
http://img299.imageshack.us/img299/6420/archforadminxu6.jpg (Picture Showing Negative Community View of Archaios)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Archaios (Archaios Wikipedia Talk Page, Lists Past/Current Involvement with HTS)
http://www.lulu.com/content/341186 (Apprantly a Book on Jeremy)
http://www.awarenetwork.org/home/outlaw/ezines/htz/underground.txt (Awarenetwork.org’s Copy of a HackThisZine Article About Jeremy and Protest Warrior Incident)
http://www.bop.gov/iloc2/InmateFinderServlet?Transaction=NameSearch&needingMoreList=false&LastName=hammond&Middle=&FirstName=jeremy&Race=U&Sex=U&Age=&x=0&y=0 (Federal Bureau of Prisons Listing for Jeremy)

HTS Copy Sites:
http://www.enigmagroup.org/ (Psychomarine HTS Copy Site)
http://web.archive.org/web/20070526102042/http://rootthisbox.net/ (Archived Version Scenestars Copy Site)
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Re: HackThisSite History

Post by epoch_qwert on Sun Jul 06, 2008 9:43 pm
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comperr, you know I had a shitload of files dealing with these sort of things. Interviews with people and stuff. For a while I thought it had disappeared. Then I remembered I had it all still compressed on another computer. I'll be putting some of it back on the internet and I'll edit this post with a link later.
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Re: HackThisSite History

Post by Karec on Mon Jul 07, 2008 1:33 am
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Conversation with Archaios about the Protest Warrior Incident, on July 6, 2008 on the irc.hackthissite.org channel on IRC.

<archaios> recon: I dumped everything I had on him, because my actual IP was in the protestwarrior logs.
<recon> archaios: why must you speak in such disdain of the person who gave you the ability to be 'special' here?
<archaios> Jeremy would have let me take the fall.
<archaios> that's why, recon.
<recon> I understand your situation
<recon> In regards to you clicking a seemingly innocuous link
<morklitu> lol
<morklitu> jeremy was a douche really
<morklitu> didnt he hit pirate daves gf in the mouth with a coke can
<nessuno> rofl
<nessuno> yeah
<nessuno> i read that report
<archaios> recon: actually I'm just bored, I really don't give a shit what people think of me, but I do expect at least some respect for the ideals I upheld
<recon> I guess that's moot
<recon> They would have anyway
<nessuno> archaios, found the exploit
<nessuno> on PW
<archaios> and the way I kept shit running
<nessuno> iirc
<nessuno> and shared it with them
<archaios> nessuno: correct
<archaios> I found the root exploit
<recon> Oh
<recon> I thought there was something about you clicking a link to a webshell
*** HTSUser37684 has quit (Quit: HTSUser37684)
<archaios> manually auditing code.
<nessuno> recon,
<archaios> there was.
<nessuno> http://chicago.indymedia.org/mod/commen ... /index.php
<archaios> recon: my IP was in the logs because of the link click
<nessuno> also
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<recon> archaios: ah, so I was right
<nessuno> read the anarchydb thing on Jeremy
<nessuno> or, what was it
<nessuno> anarchywiki
<nessuno> theres a link somewhere
<archaios> but I aided and abetted the entire hack. Jeremy gave me some custom code and asked me to find flaws. I did,
<recon> I don't know what/where that is
<archaios> then he told me what it was for
<archaios> I never wanted to get involved
<recon> archaios: did you have to stand in court or anything?
<archaios> he made me an accessory
<nessuno> recon, he actually refused
<nessuno> to do that
<archaios> recon: I refused to testify
<archaios> I refused to produce a statement
<recon> I don't see why he would go to court if unnecessary, to be honest
<archaios> Jeremy was convicted, recon, because of one of his ex-girlfriends and his employer
<archaios> plus forensic data
<recon> Narced
<archaios> from his swap partition
<recon> I know of some girl narcing on him
<archaios> the logs didn't mean anything
<archaios> because there was no established chain of custody
<archaios> and I wouldn't testify
<archaios> anyway, the point was
<archaios> I was trapped and had no choice
<Karec> Very understandable
<recon> archaios: to be honest, I sympathize with you in that instance
<Karec> In all honesty, if he did get away with it from what i've heard other people speak of jeremy
<recon> Whoever sent you that link was bang out of order
<Karec> he might have upped the ante so to speak
<recon> And should have been the one shunned

Later on after skipping some irrelevant chatter by other users in the channel:
<Karec> archaios: one thing i've noticed about dredging up the HTS history and the protest warrior incident is shit loads of things about jeremy's supports and about jeremy but literally nothing about your standpoint period
<recon> It does to some people, namely Jeremt
<recon> s/t$/y/
<recon> nessuno: history defines the present, and therefore impacts upon the future
<recon> History isn't of complete insignificance
<Karec> Actually I take that back partially, there was some stuff in the critical security forums that some people said you were in a bad position most likely
<Karec> but none of them were absolutely sure
<morklitu> Karec: no one is around who really knows
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<morklitu> Karec: there's barely anyone around anymore whod actually like
<morklitu> met jeremy
<recon> morklitu: who would know?
<recon> And what else is there?
<archaios> Karec: I was in a terrible position
<morklitu> recon: i.e.; most of the people continually talking
<archaios> only my IP was in the logs
<morklitu> are people who weren't around for the incident
<archaios> I would have taken the fall for the lot
<recon> It seems like a fairly simple (but tough, for archaios) position
<recon> exactly
<recon> Is there really any more to the story than that?
<archaios> and I would be serving 10+ years
<archaios> not the 24 months he got.
<recon> archaios: ooh
<recon> Now that begs the question
<archaios> recon: 8,000 counts of CC fraud
<recon> Why did he get less than what you were looking to get?
<archaios> how do you think that looks in court?
<archaios> because
<archaios> I stopped him from going that far
<recon> oh, I see
<recon> So if he continued
<recon> You'd have been royally owned
<archaios> yes.
<Karec> He would have been pwned.
<recon> That adds another time constraint
<recon> Which
<recon> Further justifies
<recon> I can't say I disdain you because of that instance
<archaios> a lot of people say a lot of bullshit about how I'm just a stupid narc, but I was left without any other options
<archaios> I would have died in prison
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Re: HackThisSite History

Post by mutants_r_us_guild on Mon Jul 28, 2008 3:40 pm
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Hehe... I got one for you. How about on HTS's last birthday when somehow, either through a prank or a glitch I became an admin for half an hour and was the only user ever to be threatened with not banning, but complete deletion from the user table. lol

Yeah... that was funny. So... maybe I should get a little notice in Karec's post under administrators. lol.. just a thought.
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Re: HackThisSite History

Post by comperr on Thu Jan 08, 2009 7:11 pm
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List of past hts staff - all of them

Self claimed:
skreeble - dev

All:
oohal - dev - back door incident
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Re: HackThisSite History

Post by Karec on Thu Jan 08, 2009 7:45 pm
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I have been meaning to update it but unfortunately got too busy with IRL the last few months. I plan to do a reevaulation and update of the information in two to three weeks.


Edit: I lied, again busy =/ I need to get around to this one of these days.
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Re: HackThisSite History

Post by droptable on Sat May 30, 2009 11:31 am
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I found this but I do not know how accurate it is:
http://icenetwork.co.uk/history.txt
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Re: HackThisSite History

Post by mischief on Sat May 30, 2009 2:43 pm
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droptable wrote:I found this but I do not know how accurate it is:<br>http://icenetwork.co.uk/history.txt


that would be IceShaman's/Student's, i believe.
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Re: HackThisSite History

Post by daedeluslanthanien on Thu Jun 18, 2009 4:50 am
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HTS history? I never ever thought this would happen! Where is Xec anyway? The feds must have cut him loose by now. I remember when he got nailed. That happened after Genome, fetus, Xec, and I went to DEFCON in Vegas. Things were getting pretty radical here on the site. There were some seriously smooth hacks at HTS, 0 day, alot of Anarchist, and leftist in general. I had a ton of fun with this this site, the people here are second to none, even too open or collaborative at times. The data base is most likely still very compromised by the feds. (Sorry kids.) They got really crappy with us during Bush's second election. Some stupid things were said and these stupid things were further taken out of context by the FBI. They came knocking at our doors because an arrest would have been shaky. They had 0 forensics involving a purported RNC server disruption but still felt animate enough to send us a message in person.The FBI was checking out everybody it seemed, there was even a syndicated cartoon poking fun at them for hassling old ladies at the time. I was contacted 2 days before I seen the FBI by some reporter out of Washington at CNN, so I knew the media was on it. The feds did not seem to like that limelight, but I'm pleased it came to light. My biggest displeasure of this occasion was watching Xec get burned in the long run. I think he was marked because of his infamy. All of you should learn from Xecs distaste for firewalls, proxies and lack of general obfuscation techniques at the time.

The old crew is still lurking around here. Some of them went on to college, defense contractors, strip clubs, assorted gov. agencies, military, and prison. Others, like me, with old careers took a sabatical from HTS and stayed out there on the fringe where we are comfortable. Some will never come back. The ages vary wildly. One day you could be going over code with a 14 year old programmer that is better than you or chatting up a 45 year old Hacktivist about Emma Goldman. HTS has pedigree, some may be dubious, but all in all HTS has a world-wide hacking affinity that is well established in many "areas".

You can get into alot of trouble here, with the law, and with hackers. You can also learn alot here, stay out of trouble and make alot of friends. When I first started I had fun cold-calling Xec on his cell. I can still hear the gasp and the WTF from that call. Xec got a little better controlling his info after that, but it was still funny as hell. Thats how we met. Some of my favs around here are: Genome, Smoothoperator,Pedastriol, Blackbird, Spiff-O-Matic, The_Anarchist, Xec, fetus, Mele, Psychomarine and a few others. Some of us have met up in Chicago, Vegas, and Sturgeon Bay. We hit the 2600 and the C.A.N. network scene in Chicago after much fun at Xec & fetus's pad a few times. We had the now infamous Las Vegas Trip to DEFCON together, camped in the Rockies. Take a left while going west out of Eagle Colorado and don't stop til you see lots of trees and mountains and NO people, good for the soul. Genome came up here and lives down the street from me. We have a good time when his girlfriend isn't in his hair. Kats gone, but my kids keep me busy. As you can see HTS got more than a little personal to me.

I am a little disappointed that the new people in charge of the database have munged all of my old account data and my avatar. Not a big deal though, but I can say it would have been nice to come back here and find my account as I had left it; That is the true mark of excellent database admins. I'll bet the ladies like the pink though :P So I'm back off the fringe for awhile. If any of you want to have too much fun just email me, lol. I'll go find my favorite Anarchy avatar now....

P.S. O.K. I checked it out, my account is not lost it just is not....fully integrated,lol.

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