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Re: i don't care if i'm made fun of, i need help!

Post by stealthwolf667 on Sun Feb 06, 2011 12:54 pm
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You are such a noob. First of all, anyone who knows how to hack knows that you start with "view source".... not telling you how to get there though.
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Re: i don't care if i'm made fun of, i need help!

Post by Goatboy on Sun Feb 06, 2011 2:41 pm
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stealthwolf667 wrote:You are such a noob. First of all, anyone who knows how to hack knows that you start with "view source".... not telling you how to get there though.

Actually, most people would first start an attack by taking a cursory look at the application's major components, all of these requests being run through an intercepting proxy. Once a potentially vulnerable area is found, various tests would be run (a mixture of manual and automated is preferred) to see how the code might be exploited to gain a foothold. If none can be found, I might then look into the source to see if there's anything to be revealed that I might have missed in the previous steps.

But you probably knew all of that already -_-

Seriously, you look like a major ass-hat right now. And if you're going to use "First of all" in a message, you should probably follow that up with a "Secondly" or another appropriate continuation.
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Re: i don't care if i'm made fun of, i need help!

Post by Xivus on Sat Feb 26, 2011 2:36 am
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Hmm, I realize that most of this stuff is obvious.. but I wish I would be taught what kinds of things I'm looking for before being tested on them. I'm not stupid, eager to learn, but not guided at all. Not that I'm mad, I know I haven't asked. I passed the idiot test pretty immediately. That felt good, but the second one.. I started to get discouraged, I felt like I was looking for nothing in a box of everything. Just waiting for something to click.
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Re: i don't care if i'm made fun of, i need help!

Post by Xivus on Sat Feb 26, 2011 2:39 am
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Basically, I know a little javascript, and a decent amount of html, but still... I'm sure I could figure it out if I beat around the source and learn.. but it'd be a lot easier if I understood the terminology, I think that's my problem. I have no clue what they're telling me to look for in my own language. I feel like i'm trying to learn french just by staring at a french novel all day. Possible, yes, practical, no.
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Re: i don't care if i'm made fun of, i need help!

Post by b1t on Sat Feb 26, 2011 5:11 am
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Its the same for me.. i know a little HTML but dont know what i am suppose to be looking for in the basic missions ( the source of the page) so I am trying quite hard but with no guidence i cant find anything, so if some1 would be friendly enough and maybe explained me a bit of what i am suppose to be looking for or just tell me about a webpage or a forum where i could find an explanation and guidence. :?
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Re: i don't care if i'm made fun of, i need help!

Post by msbachman on Sat Feb 26, 2011 6:38 am
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b1t wrote:Its the same for me.. i know a little HTML but dont know what i am suppose to be looking for in the basic missions ( the source of the page) so I am trying quite hard but with no guidence i cant find anything, so if some1 would be friendly enough and maybe explained me a bit of what i am suppose to be looking for or just tell me about a webpage or a forum where i could find an explanation and guidence. :?



You'll need to fumble around for a while on your own until you learn general concepts of what you're looking to accomplish in each mission--where the vulnerability lies. Until then you can always open up the thread for the specific challenge you're working on in another tab; many of them will give you strong clues of what to look for.
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Re: i don't care if i'm made fun of, i need help!

Post by b1t on Sat Feb 26, 2011 11:52 am
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msbachman, I totaly agree with you .. The problem is i dont know where to look for a vounrability and how the vounrability looks like .. but im trying, reading as much as i can from the forum and learning a bit more of HTML and JavaScript so i hope i will make a breakthrough and i would be happy if there was a bit more explanation.
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Re: i don't care if i'm made fun of, i need help!

Post by GhostProgram on Mon Feb 28, 2011 8:58 pm
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b1t wrote:msbachman, I totaly agree with you .. The problem is i dont know where to look for a vounrability and how the vounrability looks like .. but im trying, reading as much as i can from the forum and learning a bit more of HTML and JavaScript so i hope i will make a breakthrough and i would be happy if there was a bit more explanation.


Well, I'm going to make fun of you broskie.

You say that you're "trying hard" when really you're not. If you were trying at all you would attempt to actually learn HTML and then learning JS would be an easy task after that. All you're doing is giving up and not actually trying to learn, you want to be spoon fed. Being a hacker is not about asking for help on every task that you come across and personally I doubt anyone wants to spend their time in spoon feeding you things.
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Re: i don't care if i'm made fun of, i need help!

Post by msbachman on Mon Feb 28, 2011 9:16 pm
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b1t wrote:msbachman, I totaly agree with you .. The problem is i dont know where to look for a vounrability and how the vounrability looks like .. but im trying, reading as much as i can from the forum and learning a bit more of HTML and JavaScript so i hope i will make a breakthrough and i would be happy if there was a bit more explanation.


And you're pulling up the forums in another tab, right? Between the forum topic for each respective challenge and the challenge itself, most of the challenges can be had with a varying amount of trial and error.

Or if you're totally stuck post a question on a topic's thread! Look at how many people posted on basic 1 FFS. :)
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Re: i don't care if i'm made fun of, i need help!

Post by msbachman on Mon Feb 28, 2011 9:19 pm
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And if you're stuck on basic 7 likely hundreds of other people got stuck there as well; above all it's supposed to motivate you to learn a bit more alt. OSs. It's much easier if you have CLI experience with Linux, for instance. Keep trying, I fumbled my way through quite a few challenges by learning things along the way; keep learning.
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