C or C++ from security perspective

[exus69]

Hello everyone,

Am a bit confused about which language to start with from infosec point of view C or
C++. I came across a book named "Same Teach Yourself C++ in One Hour a Day"
which says its advantageous to learn C++ and not C at all coz in case of learning C first, I'll have to unlearn parts of it to learn C++. Awaiting your valuable advice.

Thanks

[thetan]

this is a silly question really.

C and C++ are of the same hat. Theres a saying i picked up somewhere a while back (don't remember the source) that wen't something like "C is like a dog, while C++ is like that same dog made into an octopus by shaving the hair off of him and stapling an additional 4 legs to him". In the end the C++ octo-dog is still a dog underneath all the OOP abstraction layers. They are as i said of the same hat.

There are mixed opinions on this, most of which will be blatantly bias and are also retardedly lacking of any sensible logic.

My personal opinion, it doesn't matter. Pick one and learn it.

People will try and tell you "OMG LEARN THIS FIRST R U SUKZ", ignore them, as this is that insensible logic i was referring to earlier materializing.

[exus69]

Thx thetan:)

[tgoe]

Regardless of your field of interest, these are facts:

• The C language is tiny compared to C++
• C++ is not C plus objects. C++ is way more complicated than that.
  C plus objects is C. (Mindfucking, I know)
• C's power matches and exceeds C++'s
• C is easier to learn than C++
• C++ is a high-level language disguised as C
• Books with titles that are similar to the pattern
  "Learn _____ in _____ minutes" are scams that prey on noob's wallets
• Many languages look to C for inspiration... C++ does too...
• You should learn more than one language
• Learning C prepares you to learn most any other language (including C++)
• "unlearn" is another noob-targeting device. Learning something new in addition
  to what you already know is always better and easier than "unlearning"

Learn C first for maximum enjoyment.

[thetan]

And this is what opinions and ass wholes have in common. Every one has them and they all smell like shit.

[fashizzlepop]

from infosec point of view

I think that common tutorials of C will teach lower levels of the language that focus on buffer overflows and such, which is your "infosec" stuff. C++ tutorials will focus on higher level programming.

This is a very broad guess/generalization. I would say try C, personally.

Also, there are some cool lectures about computing and C on youtube from the Univ. of New South Wales. The Prof is funny and entertaining. You might want to check it out.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hE7l6Adoiiw

[Arameus]

Well that depends. Would you trust your programs in the hands of Satan? Because that is what you are doing when you program in C++.

[fashizzlepop]

Well that depends. Would you trust your programs in the hands of Satan? Because that is what you are doing when you program in C++.

Wow, way to pointlessly revive this dead thread. *shoots zombie*

[fabianhjr]

Still, it is lulzy. We must keep it and continue making useless posts! For Satan!(Wait, was it his bday or why are we celebrating?)

[Arameus]

is this a slow board? I didn't bother looking when it was posted. Well it's on the top now, anyway.