The7thGuest wrote:For one I don't think alchohol is considered a sin in Christianity, Jesus turned water into wine?
Spectre557 wrote:I'm referring here to sins among all collective major religions
The7thGuest wrote:Abusing, that's the key word and that can go to anything, even eating chocolate or shopping...
So are you saying that none of those things I just listed are actually sinful in and of themselves?
The7thGuest wrote:I guess we can argue all we want about religion, you won't convince me and I won't convince you, no harm done.
I'm not trying to convince you, as I think that would be a fruitless exercise, but what I do want is a decent answer. I want you to properly read what I'm saying, and give me a valid answer, because I genuinely want to know what you think about it.
The7thGuest wrote:A sin is an act that is regarded by theologians as a transgression of God's will, since you don't believe in God you I presume it's safe to say you don't believe in sin. (Correct me if I'm wrong)
The7thGuest wrote:What I can say is that rules and regulations, who goes up, who goes down and why, that's honestly in my opinion a load of crap.
Then you're not a real Christian. In order to be one, you must follow the Bible. And if the Bible says "beat your woman", you do it. Because apparently, that's the word of God. It can't be wrong, because it's "divinely inspired". You've said that some
bits of the Bible are true and other bits aren't, right? Then how do you know that any
of it is true? The whole point of being a Christian is to obey the Bible, the will of God, and Jesus (although they're the same person?). You can't just ignore some bits as if they don't exist and treat other bits like the absolute and infallible truth.
The7thGuest wrote:I don't believe for one second that someone would go to Hell for stealing a cookie from him mom's cookie jar if I forget about it and didn't beg for forgiveness.
Slightly off-topic here, but doesn't "begging for forgiveness" for doing something that comes naturally, seem slightly wrong? Think about it: If God is omnipotent, he controls everything. Therefore, he made
you do it. He's omniscient, so he knew you were going to do it even before you were born. Yet he expects you to grovel and demean yourself for something out of your control. Even the act of repentance is completely pointless and absurd... God knows whether or not you're sorry without you doing it. And either way, he's making you do it so there's no element of actual sorriness. It would seem he does it only to enjoy watching you squirm.
The7thGuest wrote:I do believe that by the choices you make everyday you will be a good man, or not.
But if you're a good, decent person by any sane standards, who happened to masturbate when younger, will you still go to Heaven? What if you've used the brain that God gave you, examined the evidence and science that is apparently God-given, and concluded that the best way to live is as an atheist? Then will you burn in eternal torment? This God sounds like a nasty child with a magnifying glass, and we are the ants.