Wells wrote:When it comes to meetings and lectures and pretty much anything else, IRC is the worst communication medium you could possibly choose.
Forums and mailing lists and google groups are where real progress is made. People can respond from different time zones, they can take their time and prepare well-thought-out responses. IRC should never be used to get anything important organized.
Hmm, perhaps you're right. A discussion page rather than a live chat does have some good merits. I might give that a shot, although I do like having everyone immediately present to discuss pressing issues as well.
sanddbox wrote:I'm in the staff channels 4-6 hours a day. If you get a message from me and I log offline before you respond, contact me later. The last time (and first time) I talked to you in private message was December 2nd, and it was an 8-line conversation. If you don't like the file type (which I can understand), send me a message asking to change it rather than ignoring me.
I said quite clearly that the lack of financial transparency is a problem (in fact, it's in my list of proposed changes). I am not in any way accusing you of stealing money, but I am saying that we have no way to know that you are not. This is why financial transparency is a much.
Comparing HTS to a company is absolutely ridiculous. Professional developers get paid and thus will accept ridiculous rules and bureaucracy. Here, developers labor for free; as such, it is important they have what they need to develop unhindered.
I would be quite surprised if they did not have full root access to the boxes they are working on, seeing as how they are working on their own boxes. The project is not very transparent, as evidenced by the lack of updates, and the code is certainly not freely available, nor is it open to anyone who simply asks. Furthermore, my steel grip comment was not referencing the transparency of code anyway.
Did you tell him you were waiting for code to upload, or did you simply not respond?
In order of quoted paragraphs:
1) You're not in any of the ones we're actively discussing projects in, at least not when I'm present (which is frequent and random between 9am and 10pm EST). If there's a time you want to specifically meet with me, let me know, you have methods to contact me. And Dec 2nd? Dude, we talked 4 or 5 days ago.
2) Actually, you just did
accuse me of stealing. If we opt for financial transparency, I want HTS to become a registered 401C first, otherwise disclosing our finances publicly isn't the wisest of ideas. I have no problem being candid and honest, but disclosing our financial records without any legal backing isn't wise. Also, for what it's worth, HTS's income qualifies as taxable on my income, and I pay those taxes. Obviously, I'm stealing fucktons of cash from HTS.
3) Just because HTS devs don't get paid does not mean I'm gonna throw everyone root access and say "Have a fucking blast." Everyone has what they need to develop just fine, people just bitch incessantly because they're not given all the access they want. If they need it, they have it or can figure a clever solution to make it happen. Just because someone is a forums dev and asks for access to the entire code repo does not mean they need it and are going to get it. And when they hear this, ohhh do they bitch about it. No one is or was ever inhibited, they just don't wanna do shit if they don't get their way, and don't want to do any thinking to get info they need. Again, given these problems, those people ought not to be devs at all.
4) When Bren returns from idle, this is something I'm likely to fix later. I'd like to get Redmine operational, which will solve several issues you and others have about transparency, update tracking, documentation, wikis, and discussion forums.
5) I've never gotten code from him, he knows I haven't and am still waiting on it (he bitches about this frequently, and I frequently remind him "send me something or shut up"), but likely I'll get blamed for it it somehow anyway.
Wells wrote:Kage and bren2010, you really have to answer this: why are you writing your own blog engine? It's worse than I thought. You are writing a blog engine. That's so far away from what HTS needs it's not even funny anymore. There are literally thousands of blog systems you can use. You really don't need some kind of 'integration' with the site which I'm guessing you will say. All you need is a wordpress site with a few staff accounts added.
I'm actually stunned at this point.
And of course we have the problem that nobody will post anything to them. Why don't you let people post news items on the main site for a start? Just turn that into your developer's blog for the time being. If the main site started having news posts on the home page titled "Developer Blog #1 - Missions system started" then nobody is going to complain. You either use what you already have, or you get one of the many existing blog platforms and use that. You don't start coding your own blog engine when there are an infinite number of more important things to be doing.
Actually, the blog system should
be done, and I'll slap Bren if he's still focusing on that over more important issues. In reality, all it ought to really be is a news post or article post system with commenting enabled. Anything more and we're duplicating resources unnecessarily. The blog system is for staff to post frequently about the current state of affairs within HackThisSite. It is meant to offer another layer of transparency to HTS by allowing users the opportunity to see what we're doing at the moment.