What is Rooting?

[r-ID]

Step 8

[centip3de]

-patiently awaits for Goatboy/Sanddbox/or Thetan to come and wreck shit up -

[Goatboy]

-patiently awaits for Goatboy/Sanddbox/or Thetan to come and wreck shit up -

I already gave my input. I have also decided that r-ID is either trolling or retarded. In the former case, I have no desire to continue the discussion. In the latter, I feel I should respect his disability and not confuse him further.

[r-ID]

highly underestimated the ability to discuss here.

[Okeymaker]

Finally an intersting discussion. Thank you Goatboy for your informativ post previously!
To r-ID: I just wanna point out some things in the case that you´re not "trolling" (WTF IS THAT SUPPOSED TO MEAN IN ENGLISH xD?)
1. Hacking a local area such a LAN or your own machine is useful. Hacking your own machine is good practising and no one can come and say that it is illegal. Hacking a LAN is a great way to gather information. Let´s say that you are visiting a gamers LAN uninvited and looking for a special victim. You use another PC than your own or you have brought your laptop. You hack your enemies computers through the LAN, steal some information and then leaves the LAN party before someone notice. Simple as that xD. The point is that your logfiles etc. only are stored in the closed LAN, and therefor they most likely are of no use for a tracker after that you have dissconnected your PC. LAN:S use their own logs, IP adresses and connection points.

2. HACKNG REMOTELY LEAVES MORE TRACES THAN YOUR IP Do you even know how routing works? If you don´t know a subject exrtremely well, do not be so quick to look down at people (like HTS moderators) with far more experience then yourself I wouldnt do it even if I was a pro

[r-ID]

2. HACKNG REMOTELY LEAVES MORE TRACES THAN YOUR IP

TCP packet header doesn't contain any other private data except IP address.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Transmissi ... _structure
No other information is used, and the only way to identify a machine is by IP address and you can change your IP like socks
So please tell me what kind of other traces do you have in mind and i will tell how it could be avoided.

[Okeymaker]

2. HACKNG REMOTELY LEAVES MORE TRACES THAN YOUR IP

TCP packet header doesn't contain any other private data except IP address.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Transmissi ... _structure
No other information is used, and the only way to identify a machine is by IP address and you can change your IP like socks
So please tell me what kind of other traces do you have in mind and i will tell how it could be avoided.

Well, if you are hacking a computer, you do not only want to ping him right? Different hacks leaves different traces.
I am not an expert so I dare not try to cover all common methods or methods performed by elite experts, but the top sec-guys use very sophisticated ( and almoust scary because of the fact that they are not common knowledge and people have no f*** idea of how they do it) techniches when they hunt hackers and crackers. They only need to do an examination of the victims computer in a hack-lab. I have also heard that everything that is transformed to hexadecimal information on a personal computer is impossible to delete without replacing the machine´s hardware.

One thing that is incredible obvious, is that your ISP is logging your search history. If law requires, police may want to take a look at all webpages you have visited. Now you are gonna say: BUT HOW DO THEY KNOW THAT IT WAS ME THEY SHOULD CHECK OUT? Well, I have no Idea how the do the technichal part, but at least I know that if you are using a proxy, you should know that many proxies are giving out information about their clients if the police asks for it.

I am sure that persons with far more knowledge than me can answer your question better. If they want to.

[r-ID]

TCP is the most common protocol for data transfer, it is not for pinging, for pinging there is ICMP protocol which contains the same private data - ip address The hunt of hacker is by tracking down ip address (which may lead you nowhere if the hack was good). About not able to delete hexed data, that's just... it's a data! like text or any other symbol, there are technologies to restore up to 5 rewrites, any good file wipper with good algo could delete any data securely without a posibility to restore it up, today. Browsing history storing depends on law of the country you are (cyberspace is a place without rules or borders - i hope someone might remember those famious words).
Don't use public proxies, never ever after, don't use tor too, it's good only for bypassing a ban, pr0n downloading and something like that

[pretentious]

TCP is the most common protocol for data transfer, it is not for pinging, for pinging there is ICMP protocol which contains the same private data - ip address The hunt of hacker is by tracking down ip address (which may lead you nowhere if the hack was good)

I'm only beginning to learn this stuff in uni, but i think there is more to it than just worrying about one protocol. From what I've figured so far, TCP isn't used by its self, the whole internet protocol suite is used. And in the physical layer, i think the computers MAC address is sent.

[Goatboy]

TCP is the most common protocol for data transfer, it is not for pinging, for pinging there is ICMP protocol which contains the same private data - ip address The hunt of hacker is by tracking down ip address (which may lead you nowhere if the hack was good)

ICMP is still delivered via the TCP/IP stack. How would a ping know where to go without an IP address?

I'm only beginning to learn this stuff in uni, but i think there is more to it than just worrying about one protocol. From what I've figured so far, TCP isn't used by its self, the whole internet protocol suite is used. And in the physical layer, i think the computers MAC address is sent.

The physical layer is just the actual transmission of the bits across the wire (or airwaves). The MAC address would be in the Data-Link layer. The Data-Link layer is divided into two sub-layers, one of which is called the MAC layer. It's been a while since I took any networking classes, but from what I recall, once a packet leaves your network all that MAC information is stripped out because it has no use outside your network.

http://images.yourdictionary.com/images ... /TCPIP.GIF
http://security.crudtastic.com/wp-conte ... Header.jpg