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Thoughts of reality

Post by Theminatar on Wed Jun 16, 2010 5:25 pm
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I remember my friend and I were talking, he asked me, what if everyone you saw was a figment of your imagination. What if what you think you saw wasn't real, what if everything was a lie? Also, our ways of thinking developed from the day we were born, we were raised thinking that the color of red you see is called red, but what if that were blue to someone? The color red, but the name of blue? That can used for a lot of things, the actual subject was crazy, but think about it...
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Re: Thoughts of reality

Post by Draymire on Wed Jun 16, 2010 6:04 pm
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Me and my friend had that same conversation a while back we basically decided that it made sense because it would help explain why people have different favourite colours. I love the theory and it is great to know others think about things like this too.
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Re: Thoughts of reality

Post by shaqywacky on Wed Jun 16, 2010 6:05 pm
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inb4 MATRIX!!!

For the color thing, you could just look at what colors go into making those colors. Like if they saw red as blue and they mixed the real red(they would think its blue)with yellow, it would come out orange. They would expect it to come out green.
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Post by msbachman on Wed Jun 16, 2010 6:34 pm
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shaqywacky wrote:For the color thing, you could just look at what colors go into making those colors. Like if they saw red as blue and they mixed the real red(they would think its blue)with yellow, it would come out orange. They would expect it to come out green.


Well, in your case it still wouldn't solve the problem. They could just call the resultant color with whatever label they wanted, really. And people could still agree on the color name but still sense totally different things.

This takes me back to my philosophy days at school. At wikipedia you can fuck your mind up, down, and sideways with things of this nature. Here's another interesting thing:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Problem_of_other_minds
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Re: Thoughts of reality

Post by Vulpine on Wed Jun 16, 2010 7:49 pm
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Two people using two different names for the same thing doesn't really amount to anything. It happens all day, every day. You say desktop, I say workstation, and we're both using different terms to describe the same thought or idea. If you reverse this, however, it gets complicated: the same term to describe completely different thoughts/ideas. This is precisely what language, properly used, is supposed to avoid, though.
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Re: Thoughts of reality

Post by Goatboy on Wed Jun 16, 2010 9:59 pm
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Everyone's had this conversation. There's actually a term for it, something to do with a scientist and her television.
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Re: Thoughts of reality

Post by Mr_Grey on Wed Jun 16, 2010 10:06 pm
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Perceived reality. Very theoretical, but on some base level it is very true.
Perception is divined to you by birth. You're parents and the entire subculture of your species does this, not only do you learn rudimentary bodily movements and eating habits; but you also inherit their perceptions. If I bore a child to this world and only allowed him to speak to me, I could in fact teach said child anything I wished.
I could make a fish a plane, a plane a rock, and trees into pets.

This is perceived reality, all baseline thoughts here can be reorganized though, through careful retraining of the mind. The only issue is that since we have no clue what is the "True" perceptive of reality and how it is named, we must simply default to was is most commonly accepted.

Think about it, right now had the word "Bitch" been turned into a name and not a vulgar word or slang term some time in our past... Your name could be "Bitch Jenkins".

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Post by Goatboy on Wed Jun 16, 2010 10:09 pm
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How the hell did you find my name?
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Re: Thoughts of reality

Post by Mr_Grey on Wed Jun 16, 2010 10:23 pm
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Goatboy wrote:How the hell did you find my name?

I guessed?
You're name has "Jenkins" in it?
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Post by Goatboy on Wed Jun 16, 2010 10:25 pm
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=\ Yea, let's go with that.
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