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why worship gods?

PostPosted: Sun Mar 07, 2010 6:57 pm
by hacker85
I am an atheist, but my views on gods angels and other stuff like that is: even if there is a god why should we worship him? look at all humans have accomplished. And all we can accomplish, to me we are gods, we can build our muscles to lift hundreds of pounds. We can adapt quickly, we have created math,science and whole civilizations. if we somehow tapped into the full power of our brains and muscles we would be almost unstoppable. So to me I think no god(if there is one) is worthy of our worship to me the only things worthy of our worship is ourselves.

Re: why worship gods?

PostPosted: Sun Mar 07, 2010 7:11 pm
by sanddbox
I don't think we created math or science...

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PostPosted: Sun Mar 07, 2010 7:41 pm
by Goatboy
Looks like someone just read The Lost Symbol.

Re: why worship gods?

PostPosted: Sun Mar 07, 2010 7:43 pm
by hacker85
what is the lost symbol?

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PostPosted: Sun Mar 07, 2010 7:55 pm
by sanddbox
hacker85 wrote:what is the lost symbol?

A book by Dan Brown. (I haven't read it yet).

Re: why worship gods?

PostPosted: Sun Mar 07, 2010 8:01 pm
by orwell84
sanddbox wrote:I don't think we created math or science...

I agree. It was more of a discovery than a creation.

Re: why worship gods?

PostPosted: Sun Mar 07, 2010 9:16 pm
by Bren2010
hacker85 wrote:I am an atheist, but my views on gods angels and other stuff like that is: even if there is a god why should we worship him? look at all humans have accomplished. And all we can accomplish, to me we are gods, we can build our muscles to lift hundreds of pounds. We can adapt quickly, we have created math,science and whole civilizations. if we somehow tapped into the full power of our brains and muscles we would be almost unstoppable. So to me I think no god(if there is one) is worthy of our worship to me the only things worthy of our worship is ourselves.


If there is a god, we should worship him. Just how you should respect your parents although you're already born. They will still always be there for support, and if they weren't (because you don't respect them), a lot of people would probably be pretty lost.

Not to mention, worshiping yourself will most likely cause an ego the size of a blimp, which will only cause ego fights (i.e. "I'm smarter!", "No! I'm smarter!").

orwell84 wrote:
sanddbox wrote:I don't think we created math or science...

I agree. It was more of a discovery than a creation.


Math and science was created by us. There's something called Number Theory, which is the theory of how numbers relate to things in the real world. Just how English is used to communicate, French can do the same thing, along with Spanish, Chinese, Japanese, and a whole load of others.

Re: why worship gods?

PostPosted: Sun Mar 07, 2010 9:40 pm
by sanddbox
Bren2010 wrote:
hacker85 wrote:I am an atheist, but my views on gods angels and other stuff like that is: even if there is a god why should we worship him? look at all humans have accomplished. And all we can accomplish, to me we are gods, we can build our muscles to lift hundreds of pounds. We can adapt quickly, we have created math,science and whole civilizations. if we somehow tapped into the full power of our brains and muscles we would be almost unstoppable. So to me I think no god(if there is one) is worthy of our worship to me the only things worthy of our worship is ourselves.


If there is a god, we should worship him. Just how you should respect your parents although you're already born. They will still always be there for support, and if they weren't (because you don't respect them), a lot of people would probably be pretty lost.

Not to mention, worshiping yourself will most likely cause an ego the size of a blimp, which will only cause ego fights (i.e. "I'm smarter!", "No! I'm smarter!").

orwell84 wrote:
sanddbox wrote:I don't think we created math or science...

I agree. It was more of a discovery than a creation.


Math and science was created by us. There's something called Number Theory, which is the theory of how numbers relate to things in the real world. Just how English is used to communicate, French can do the same thing, along with Spanish, Chinese, Japanese, and a whole load of others.


Number Theory has nothing to do with this argument. The numbers were already there; we were just the ones to see them.

Thus, we discovered it.

Re: why worship gods?

PostPosted: Sun Mar 07, 2010 10:51 pm
by insomaniacal
You can't really say that the numbers were already there. This is how I think of it.

Caveman saw some rocks, and told his wife to go to the group of rocks. But there were many groups of rocks. So the caveman had to use his intelligence to describe to her that it was a group of three rocks.

There may have been three rocks there since the dawn of time, but someone had to think of the concept of numbers in order to properly perceive or describe them.

As for science, we definitely invented that. Science is defined as

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      The observation, identification, description, experimental investigation, and theoretical explanation of phenomena.

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Once again, things in nature occur, but humans invented science as a way to observe and understand them.

Re: why worship gods?

PostPosted: Mon Mar 08, 2010 5:02 pm
by Bren2010
sanddbox wrote:
Bren2010 wrote:
sanddbox wrote:I don't think we created math or science...


Math and science was created by us. There's something called Number Theory, which is the theory of how numbers relate to things in the real world. Just how English is used to communicate, French can do the same thing, along with Spanish, Chinese, Japanese, and a whole load of others.


Number Theory has nothing to do with this argument. The numbers were already there; we were just the ones to see them.

Thus, we discovered it.


Number Theory has everything to do with what your talking about. God can use whatever he wants to count, or maybe he doesn't even count at all.

insomaniacal wrote:Once again, things in nature occur, but humans invented science as a way to observe and understand them.

^ Just what I was trying to think of a way to say.