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Is anything original

Post by comperr on Wed Jun 18, 2008 6:54 pm
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Voltaire wrote:Almost everything is imitation. The idea of The Persian Letters was taken from The Turkish Spy. Boiardo imitated Pulci, Ariosto imitated Boiardo. The most original writers borrowed from one another.
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Re: Is anything original

Post by OneArrow on Thu Jun 19, 2008 12:57 am
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We all draw our inspiration from somewhere, whether we like it or not. As far as I can see, everything is always based upon something else that we know or experience, it's how we apply it (accidentally or otherwise) that makes any sort of difference.

I think this gets to the heart of hacking itself - taking what we know and doing something crazy with it that no one has bothered to try yet.
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Re: Is anything original

Post by heyheyhack on Thu Jun 19, 2008 3:29 pm
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i agree we can take something and call it our own, or new, but really there is something that has influenced us to do something, in whatever we do. even us hackers, technology may be changing but we get our influence from previous hackers :D
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Re: Is anything original

Post by OneArrow on Fri Jun 20, 2008 11:19 am
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comperr wrote:
Voltaire wrote:Almost everything is imitation. The idea of The Persian Letters was taken from The Turkish Spy. Boiardo imitated Pulci, Ariosto imitated Boiardo. The most original writers borrowed from one another.


See what I did there? :]
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Re: Is anything original

Post by sokeman on Sun Sep 14, 2008 7:40 am
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if you think that your being original enuff times then you will be original. But how do you know your being original???
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Re: Is anything original

Post by nosidius on Sun Sep 14, 2008 9:10 am
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for something to be original, it must be original in the eyes of those who see it........... so we can say that as long as others perceive it to be original, it is


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Re: Is anything original

Post by Bulldoze on Sun Sep 14, 2008 4:39 pm
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comperr wrote:
Voltaire wrote:The idea of The Persian Letters was taken from The Turkish Spy. Boiardo imitated Pulci, Ariosto imitated Boiardo. The most original writers borrowed from one another.

Where was the Idea of The Turkish Spy taken from? Whom did pulci imitate and whom did Boiardo? There would be no end to this chain unless someone/something is original.

comperr wrote:
Voltaire wrote:Almost everything is imitation.

We can use this sentence in a Reductio ad absurdum to prove otherwise . if that was the case we would have an infinite continuum(vacuous), So we have to end the chain somewhere and that requires a source that is not imitation/does not imitate. Hence those sources are original.
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Re: Is anything original

Post by nosidius on Sun Sep 14, 2008 8:43 pm
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wouldn't the first always be original in what it is? it's still a new combination of ideas..........
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