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Re: Racist Website

Post by xkyzaa on Sat Jul 19, 2008 10:20 pm
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if they are giving their opinion to other people via the web. then there is a fifty fifty taking into account freedom of speech etc. if they are spreading malicious lies or organising for people to be abused, hurt, etc then there is no arguement that they deserve to be hacked. for the well being of other people.
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Re: Racist Website

Post by Tera8yte on Sat Jul 19, 2008 10:56 pm
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Freedom of speech allows us to express different views. We believe racism to be incorrect, wrong, "despicable". People who are racist express hate against certain peoples. But if we hack their sites, aren't WE expressing hate towards racist people? So in a sense, would we not become "racist" to this group of racist people?
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Re: Racist Website

Post by sand-werm on Sat Jul 19, 2008 11:16 pm
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i believe that racism is wrong no matter what the case may be and i will do almost anything to condemn it and prevent its advancement. anything except to lower myself to their level. one of the things racists strive to do is to limit and/or destroy the freedoms of those that they hate. those freedoms including their freedom of speech/expression. i will not limit someones freedom of expression, no matter how vile that opinion may be, due to the fact that i would then be no better than them. i would even be categorizing them as racists, making assumptions about them, etc. i doubt that anyone would bother to read their website to see how racist they were and would instead just destroy it. it could be jokes making fun of every race, and one person labeled it as a racist website. it could also be something truly evil, but it is then still just an extremely vile opinion. also, these websites don't have much power in the first place. the people who gather there are already racists and likely aren't convincing anyone of how right they are. and if they do convince a few people, those few people shouldn't be on the internet anyways and likely believe everything they read on the internet and use AOL.
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Re: Racist Website

Post by fashizzlepop on Sun Jul 20, 2008 12:19 am
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I say spam the shit out of 'em. And members if they have those.
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Re: Racist Website

Post by c24lightning on Sun Jul 20, 2008 10:03 pm
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Antiracism wrote:I think the Net should not allow those poor ignorant to display such disgraceful sites, it is very...very sad, what sort of ethic does the Network apply when allowing such disgusting content to the public domain?

Before this argument comes porn on public domains. Have fun with that one.
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Re: Racist Website

Post by reaper1408 on Wed Aug 20, 2008 2:06 pm
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Honestly I am a person that follows only my on beliefs, like many on this site i would say. What i mean by that is that, the law doesn't concern me as much, because that's not what i follow i follow my own moral. And this is an issue where i feel like my moral is clashing with the law, because i fell that hate crimes and racist beliefs are violation of the freedom of speech.
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Re: Racist Website

Post by egwenejs on Sat Aug 30, 2008 9:00 pm
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I've read a lot of posts in this topic that state that having a racist belief and stating that opinion is a violation of the freedom of speech. OK, so according to the same logic that means having Christian beliefs and stating them is also a violation of the freedom of speech or even you stating your opinions here on this website - which are contrary to mine and appear vulgar to me - is a violation of your freedom to speak. So, before try to limit someone else rights make sure that your not limiting your own in return.
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Re: Racist Website

Post by nosidius on Tue Sep 02, 2008 8:43 pm
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there are many problems in government, but as this is a hacking site, we should begin here, within our domain........ but we must keep in mind mitnick, and how these things work.........
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Re: Racist Website

Post by AngryJohn on Wed Sep 03, 2008 2:08 pm
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I have only read to page two, but someone said and it seems to be the popular opinion, that racism is bad because it discriminates and hence the racist websites or posters or whatever media should be banned/hacked etc.....
Surely by performing this action you are discriminating against racists, regardless of your opinion of these people, no matter how vulgar you judge them to be surely you are doing exactly what you yourself despise? It is judged socially acceptable to discriminate against people such as that because it's a publicly and widely held opinion that racists are ignorant scumbags. Now think back to what the opinion was of any type of ethnic minority 100 years ago, or 200 years ago.
Just thought i would add a twist and something hopefully to think about on this morality debate.
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Re: Racist Website

Post by nosidius on Fri Sep 05, 2008 6:47 pm
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eh? i think the term ur searching for is "devils advocate"

and yes, we are discriminating against the ignorant in an attempt to cure them of their ignorance, we have to start somewhere, right?
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