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Anarchsim (without hyphens)

Post by BasedLizardTitties on Thu Dec 03, 2015 2:30 am
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Noticed that the most recent thread on any kind of anarchy hasn't had the dust blown off in about 5 years, figured it'd be best not to necro on my third post.

I imagine there's some kind of concentration of anarchists in the hacker community, where does everyone stand on the matter? Not looking for the usual ancap/ancom flame wars, I've seen plenty of that, thanks much, but I was hoping to see what kind of ideas are floating around, hopefully make contact with some new minds.
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Re: Anarchsim (without hyphens)

Post by pretentious on Thu Dec 03, 2015 4:35 am
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BasedLizardTitties wrote:I imagine there's some kind of concentration of anarchists in the hacker community, where does everyone stand on the matter?

I could easily be the exception to the rule but I'm a very strong capitalism supporter, Follower of Ayn Rand. Read the abridged version of the fountainhead(getting into the unabridged now), then Atlas shurgged, agreed with it but thought she painted the antagonists in a bad light so started reading the communist manifesto to get the other site and didn't get too deep before i was face palming.

I have to claim ignorance on the nuances of Anarchism but my general view on social structure is https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h2Aqfp5iMnw
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Re: Anarchsim (without hyphens)

Post by BasedLizardTitties on Thu Dec 03, 2015 1:45 pm
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I wouldn't exactly say exception, but it would make us two of kind either way. Although, I don't read much, is the CM really that bad?
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Re: Anarchsim (without hyphens)

Post by boriz666 on Fri Dec 04, 2015 5:50 am
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I am a huge supporter of the Ayn Rand view myself, after I read Atlas Shrugged.
Its a monster of a book but well worth the read, very insightful thoughts.

I am not an anarchist but a firm believer that the state should stay out of as much
as possible and that you are responsible for your own actions 100%.

As you say with socialism, it dies when it has run out of other peoples money.
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Re: Anarchsim (without hyphens)

Post by pretentious on Fri Dec 04, 2015 6:45 am
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BasedLizardTitties wrote:is the CM really that bad?

I'm incredibly biased so take my opinion with a grain of salt but the way I see it, in simple terms, a statement that marx made famous is 'From each according to his ability, to each according to his needs', this shows how shallow my education is on this topic(I have one quote to deconstruct) but if you look up the pareto principle AKA the 80 20 rule, it is demonstrated that in nature there are natural bell curves for almost everything. 20% of actions produce 80% of reactions and for those 20%, 20% of them produce 80% of the 80% etc. I'm not really sure how to structure my argument but I'd say that there is a natural equilibrium of inequality in nature. And communism, while theoretically is nice, in practice, human nature just doesn't work that way and you need to incentivise the 20% of 'prime movers'

boriz666 wrote:I read Atlas Shrugged. Its a monster of a book

It took me 7 months to read it on audible :shock: It was literally one of my lifes noteworthy accomplishments to persist through that. Galt's speech took me several lunch breaks :)

boriz666 wrote:you are responsible for your own actions 100%.

I don't want to go too deep down the rabbit hole here :lol: but I 100% recommend if anyone reading this has problems/conflict/discontent with their life situation. See how your entire world changes when you stop pointing the finger at other people and take responsibility for yourself. Even if it isn't your fault. Just the 'balls in my court' mentality can be a powerful catalyst.
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Re: Anarchsim (without hyphens)

Post by BasedLizardTitties on Fri Dec 04, 2015 2:04 pm
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Hm, had always kinda felt that way about communism in general, but couldn't be arsed to read Marx's work. I've actually seen first hand how poorly socialism works, at least, and it wasn't pretty. The hard workers worked hard because that was their nature and the rest did the bare minimum and skated by. Beyond that, all the "free" stuff we got was basically shit. 2/10 would not do again

I may have to read Atlas Shrugged then, I like big books.

Lol, don't sweat the rabbit hole too much, I'm already way down it. I completely related with your statement though. As soon as I removed the bonds others held on me, my life spiraled out of control until I grabbed my own affairs by the horns. It's a huge leap, but one that can infinitely improve someone's life.
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