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Buying new computer! Need opinions

Post by MatiMaster on Tue Nov 24, 2009 5:58 pm
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I am buying a new computer, I want it for Programming, cracking, gaming, video editing, animation making and learning.

Here are the spects, please tell me what i should keep or add and why !? Also give me a raiting of 0-10 on how the pc looks and give me some experience with these pieces, this is thanked :D ^.^. ( and yes i might go SLI, so i am thinking of upgrading power supply, though it's SLI certified.)

(used tiger direct to copy and paste the list! Yes ! I know newegg usually has better prices! But i bearly found anything i liked in newegg.)

1 S203-2520 - Samsung T260HD Touch of Color 26" Widescreen LCD Monitor - 1080p, 1920x1200, WUXGA, 1000:1, 5ms, HDMI
1 E145-2059 - EVGA X58 SLI LE Motherboard - LGA 1366, Intel X58, SATA, SLI Ready, Triple Channel DDR3 support, RAID, Hyperthreading support
1 M17-7310 - Microsoft Windows 7 Ultimate 64BIT Operating System Software - OEM DVD
1 L23-7310 - Logitech G15 Gaming Keyboard
1 C283-2040 - Cooler Master R4-L2R-20CR-GP Case Fan - 120mm, Red
1 E145-0283 - EVGA GeForce GTX 285 Video Card - 2GB GDDR3, PCI Express 2.0, SLI Ready, (Dual Link) Dual DVI, HDTV
1 B69-4032 - Intel Core i7 975 Extreme Processor w/ Fan & FREE Resident Evil Game Download
1 O261-2017 - OCZ ModXStream Pro Power Supply - 600-Watt, Modular, Dual +12V Rails, SATA, 80Plus
1 ULT40110 - Ultra SATA II 3Gbps Cable w/4-Pin Molex to 15-Pin Power Adapter Cable
1 L49-1028 OEM - LG GH22NS50 DVD Writer - DVD+R 22x, DVD+RW 8X, DVD-RW 6x, DVD-RAM 12x, SATA (OEM)
1 C283-1187 - Cooler Master HAF 932 Full Tower Black Case
1 H450-9000 - Hitachi Deskstar HD32000 IDK/7K Internal Hard Drive - 2TB, 7200RPM, 32MB, SATA-3G
2 O261-7606 - OCZ Intel Core i7 Tri Channel 6GB PC10666 DDR3 Memory - 1333MHz, 6144MB (3 x 2048MB) (12GB RAM)
1 - Corsair CWCH50-1 Hydro H50 CPU Liquid Cooler - 120mm Fan, Copper Cold Plate, Aluminum Radiator, LGA775, LGA1366, LGA1156, AM2/AM3
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Re: Buying new computer! Need opinions

Post by thedotmaster on Wed Nov 25, 2009 8:14 pm
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Get two computers. One for gaming and the like and the other a cheap, low spec PC running Linux for general use and coding.
The laptop I'm on currently cost me £250. It runs Linux. It won't play hi-def-3D games particularly well, but I don't game.
If I were you, I wouldn't get Windows 7.
It's DRMed to the brim, and the NSA "helped" them make it (read as "potentially backdoors all over the place").
Still, your choice. A lot of that hardware seems really unnecessary, though.
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Re: Buying new computer! Need opinions

Post by BruceSmith on Mon Nov 30, 2009 4:56 am
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Hi,
I am really sorry to say that I don't have much idea about the latest configuration.
Well that is not the solution of buying two computers that's the bullshit.
One of my friend recently purchased Desktop computer with following configuration.
CPU: Q6600 G0 step OC @ 3.4 GHZ 1.55 volts (cooled by Thermaltake Big Typhoon)
MOBO: XFX 750i
GFX: 2x eVGA GTX 275 @ 710/1596/1270
RAM: Corsair Dominator DHX 1066 - 5-5-5-15 2t 2.1v
PSU: Thermaltake Toughpower 850 watt
CASE: Antec 1200
APU: X-fi Xtremegamer SPEAKERS: Logitech X-530 5.1
HDD: 3x Seagate Barracuda 7200.10 80gb 8mb cache in RAID 0
DISPLAY: Asus V2203 22inch 1680x1050 resolution
KEYBOARD: Logitech G15 MOUSE: Logitech G5 WHEEL: Logitech G25
OPERATING SYSTEM: Windows 7 Ultimate x64 RTM

It works nice. He bought for the same purpose as you, he is doing computer science.
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Re: Buying new computer! Need opinions

Post by ShadowSniper0819 on Fri Jan 08, 2010 1:37 am
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MatiMaster wrote:I am buying a new computer, I want it for Programming, cracking, gaming, video editing, animation making and learning.

Here are the spects, please tell me what i should keep or add and why !? Also give me a raiting of 0-10 on how the pc looks and give me some experience with these pieces, this is thanked :D ^.^. ( and yes i might go SLI, so i am thinking of upgrading power supply, though it's SLI certified.)

(used tiger direct to copy and paste the list! Yes ! I know newegg usually has better prices! But i bearly found anything i liked in newegg.)

1 S203-2520 - Samsung T260HD Touch of Color 26" Widescreen LCD Monitor - 1080p, 1920x1200, WUXGA, 1000:1, 5ms, HDMI
1 E145-2059 - EVGA X58 SLI LE Motherboard - LGA 1366, Intel X58, SATA, SLI Ready, Triple Channel DDR3 support, RAID, Hyperthreading support
1 M17-7310 - Microsoft Windows 7 Ultimate 64BIT Operating System Software - OEM DVD
1 L23-7310 - Logitech G15 Gaming Keyboard
1 C283-2040 - Cooler Master R4-L2R-20CR-GP Case Fan - 120mm, Red
1 E145-0283 - EVGA GeForce GTX 285 Video Card - 2GB GDDR3, PCI Express 2.0, SLI Ready, (Dual Link) Dual DVI, HDTV
1 B69-4032 - Intel Core i7 975 Extreme Processor w/ Fan & FREE Resident Evil Game Download
1 O261-2017 - OCZ ModXStream Pro Power Supply - 600-Watt, Modular, Dual +12V Rails, SATA, 80Plus
1 ULT40110 - Ultra SATA II 3Gbps Cable w/4-Pin Molex to 15-Pin Power Adapter Cable
1 L49-1028 OEM - LG GH22NS50 DVD Writer - DVD+R 22x, DVD+RW 8X, DVD-RW 6x, DVD-RAM 12x, SATA (OEM)
1 C283-1187 - Cooler Master HAF 932 Full Tower Black Case
1 H450-9000 - Hitachi Deskstar HD32000 IDK/7K Internal Hard Drive - 2TB, 7200RPM, 32MB, SATA-3G
2 O261-7606 - OCZ Intel Core i7 Tri Channel 6GB PC10666 DDR3 Memory - 1333MHz, 6144MB (3 x 2048MB) (12GB RAM)
1 - Corsair CWCH50-1 Hydro H50 CPU Liquid Cooler - 120mm Fan, Copper Cold Plate, Aluminum Radiator, LGA775, LGA1366, LGA1156, AM2/AM3


I'm going to have to agree with TheDotMaster on one of his points...EXTRANEOUS PARTS! Do you really need to 3GBps cable?
You don't need a liquid CPU cooler, just make sure you have 3 fans in that bitch and you should be good, unless you plan on overclocking. In which case you're an idiot for OC'ing your only PC. a 2TB HDD?? Really? 1TB is MORE than enough, but 2TB could store a documentary of america from the BEGINNING! 12GB of RAM???

To be honest, I think this computer would blow your house off of the foundation...but that's just me. You're never going to use all that power...Go with ONE stick of the 6GB DDR3 RAM, make sure your processor is a quad-core. And for the love of god, get a second monitor!! With all the stats on the computer, I would have thought that you would have 7 monitors connected to it but you only listed ONE..
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Re: Buying new computer! Need opinions

Post by thedotmaster on Fri Jan 08, 2010 9:01 am
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Dual monitors are rarely any good. One PC per monitor is the best approach.
6GB of RAM? Are you kidding? That's stupidly excessive.
Seriously, quit gaming, buy a low spec PC and learn to code on Linux.
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Re: Buying new computer! Need opinions

Post by neuromanta on Fri Jan 08, 2010 10:10 am
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You don't have to quit gaming, but a low-end PC is just enough, unless you want to program complex 3D graphics like tesselators or shaders. Also if you are a serious 3D modeller and animator, maybe you would need a PC like that, but I don't think you work at ID Software. Or do you want to simulate billions of neurons, or something? Then you should wait for Fermi, and learn Cuda... it would be cheaper.
Having two monitors can be very helpful in many cases.
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Re: Buying new computer! Need opinions

Post by Goatboy on Fri Jan 08, 2010 10:16 am
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One big mistake I see people make when they are building their own computers is that they feel the need to overdo everything. Let me make it painfully clear: You are trying to do WAY too much.

You will not, as an average user, need 12G of RAM for at least the next 5 years, especially since your video card has 2G of RAM for itself. I'm basing that estimation on the theory that computer speed doubles every 18 months. Granted, it's just an estimation and I am certain there are uses for 12G now, but they are few and far between in terms of normal users.

My rig right now has a quad-core processor with 4G of RAM. Why? Well, when I got it I was a huge gamer and I was thinking the same thing as you: More stuff = More power. I honestly have not even used this thing to half capacity. I've tried to, and am coming close with running a few VMs at the same time, but for its original purpose, it was way too much.

I also definitely agree with dotty (thedotmaster) about getting two comps. My coding is done mostly on my laptop that I got for college. 1G of RAM, can't play games to save it's life, and is basically a glorified text edited. Now, I am probably not giving it enough credit since it is actually pretty nice, but I only paid about $300 for it new, which was the cheapest one they had.

Long story longer, just get the "recommended" specs that the game says you should have, add about 25% if you want better performance, and you'll be set for a while. Pick up a junker off craigslist for the coding, and you're good.
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Re: Buying new computer! Need opinions

Post by Draymire on Fri Jan 08, 2010 4:31 pm
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Yay 12gb Ram is definetly too much. i have 6gb in my rig that i use for gaming and i only ever use like 17% of my memory.
2TB HDD does seem excessive as i have a 1TB and it is almost way too big.

My laptop only has 100gb HDD and it seems small now but it still holds a reletivly high amount of things especially when it comes to programs and text files, if you like to store digital videos then it is small
also my laptop only has 2.5gb of ram and it is sufficent at programming and some gaming.

However i am not one to criticize your rig as i just blew a crap ton on my rig and for the past week it has just been gathering dust as my laptop is just what i need at the moment. a mobile text editor. and thinking about it i think i spent too much on this dell crap but not much i can do know but enjoy my excessive gaming rig and expensive laptop..lol

on a side note i need to learn how to spell.
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Re: Buying new computer! Need opinions

Post by insomaniacal on Fri Jan 08, 2010 6:21 pm
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If you're going to be doing some gaming, make sure your video card is cutting edge. I have a laptop with 2GB of RAM, and it runs most games fine. The only problem I ever run into is with my my video card, which is getting a bit old for some of the newer games.

I've done a decent amount of video editing on my laptop as well, nothing professional grade, more along the lines of school projects and such, and it's been fine with only 2 GB, so you may want to lower your 12, unless you've got some unlimited money-resources.
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Re: Buying new computer! Need opinions

Post by DamegedSpy on Fri Jan 08, 2010 8:29 pm
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I have an old computer that is borrowed and that's it. You should look into ATI(yes I think they are better than nVidia)
They got better prices on Dollar/GFLOPS(The 5870 was about 7 cents per GFLOPS) It also have Eyefinity if you want to go with multiscreens.

For the processor you could go down to a 920 or at least 975

If you can afford to pay this like if it was a piece of sushi. Then go ahead and also buy a Cray
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