last dumb question

[fatso6996]

how can i find a log in place on a commercial web site. they have to be somewhere otherwise no one can edit it.

(all things i learn here will not be used for black hat things, just for knowledge)

[Assassian360]

Almost every site is different. Sometimes client side code will show where any sort of database files are. However typically that is terrible security practice and any reference to what the files may be or if they are even stored on that particular website are hidden on the server side. Essentially this means a lot of the time it can be hard to locate something like that. Even if you do work out where they are storing their data it doesn't always mean you can get it. Normally files like that if they exist will have some kind of permissions only allowing editing and viewing by the server.

You're unlikely to get anything more helpful than this. There is not really a hard fast rule, and a lot of the time information will be stored in SQL databases etc.

[insomaniacal]

Log in places?

Not sure what you mean, but most sites will let you log into an account you legitimately own without a problem.

[Assassian360]

I think what he is meaning is "where do sites store their data from users?".

Edit:
But if Insomanical is right in his interpretation of your question. Then his answer is also right.

[insomaniacal]

I think what he is meaning is "where do sites store their data from users?".

I was being sarcastic.

Anyway, downloading the SQL database most likely by means of SQL injection and then trying to crack the password hashes the de-facto answer here. The difficulty in which to do this varies by configuration, but unless someone is running an old phpbb forum(for example) that has tons of exploits, it'll probably be pretty hard/impossible to get a dump of the database.

[fatso6996]

no i mean where can i log into a site that normally isn't able to be logged into. i mean the admin has to identify them self somehow.. should i use a shell?

a random example would be http://www.huntingcamera.org/

[Monica]

no i mean where can i log into a site that normally isn't able to be logged into. i mean the admin has to identify them self somehow.. should i use a shell?

a random example would be http://www.huntingcamera.org/

You are a confused individual, and knowing this makes you upset. You can definitely use a shell. In fact, you can use FTP, too. You can also use Wikipedia, which offers valuable, 100% accurate information; using this will not make you upset. Then you can download special hacking tools at: http://www.elite-hackers.com. With these great tools and resources, you no longer will be upset.

[Goatboy]

It sounds like a round of tech word bingo when you talk.

There is no set place where all websites have you log in. Not all websites have a login page. Many are managed right from the server. I don't see how a shell would come into play here.

[fatso6996]

lol sorry i don't know anything about this kinda stuff. i've been reading about everything i can think of regarding hacking and coding but i sometimes need to ask a real person a few questions

[Monica]

fatso, I understand you may be upset because you're not getting the replies you want. It's OK to ask questions, but make sure to do some research on your own. Otherwise, if you continue to ask questions, it will make many people on the interwebs very upset. When you do research of your own, you will not only learn, but you will also gain confidence. You no longer will be upset.