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Help with backtrack.

Post by sealle on Sun Jan 12, 2014 2:14 am
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Hi everyone,

So, I have this problem. I needed some software to decrypt the hash on realistic 5 and I couldn't find a safe copy of Cain and able, so I got the iso for Backtrack 5. Now that I have booted it and got it running, I can't get Cain and Able to start. Has anyone else had these problems or have any idea as how to fix it?
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Re: Help with backtrack.

Post by limdis on Sun Jan 12, 2014 6:42 am
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Cain can be installed via wine but it is limited. It's really meant for windows. I would also suggest looking into using John the Ripper.
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Re: Help with backtrack.

Post by -Ninjex- on Sun Jan 12, 2014 6:57 am
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For future reference, you should post the error output here in a code block so we can help investigate further.
I recommend you ditch BT anyways and grab Kali as this is the new alternative from the same developers. Afaik, the BT forums are no longer supported so help will be minimal in BT opposed to the new alternative of Kali.

Post your error output please.
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Re: Help with backtrack.

Post by hellow533 on Sun Jan 12, 2014 8:38 am
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The website that primarily hosts Cain it perfectly safe. Most AV freak out for no reason because Cain is considered a malicious program.

BT5 is fine depending on what you want to do with it. Considering you're using it to slap hashes, I don't think going for Kali is going to be worthwhile for you. BT5 should still come with a copy of John. If not and I'm wrong, look into just downloading JTR yourself. Cain's use is mainly for Windows, so it's operation with linux based systems is going to be edgy at best, just as Limdis stated before.

So either download Cain on windows against your antivirus' own bickering, or use JohnTheRipper. I wouldn't spring for Kali unless you're actually going to use it past this.
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Re: Help with backtrack.

Post by -Ninjex- on Sun Jan 12, 2014 9:32 am
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I don't think you understand the point of my argument.
The reason isn't to get a working copy of JTR, it is for technical support from the developers via forums.
If he is having questions about a corrupted or non working copy of JTR, it would save all of us and him time to convert over to a supported distribution. Otherwise, it will be a hassle for all of us when more issues arrive in the future.

As stated before, and I will again: I advise you to switch to the supported alternative of Kali. It's not hard and doesn't take much time to do.

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hellow533 wrote:unless you're actually going to use it past this.

It's assumed that an avid user taking on challenges at a hacking site would use it past 'this'.
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Re: Help with backtrack.

Post by sealle on Sun Jan 12, 2014 3:30 pm
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Wow, I got a lot more replies than I expected to get, thanks everyone.
The weird thing about all this is that it's not giving an error output, it just stops. What I mean is that after I got the install set up, I would try to launch the application and the little bar at the bottom of the screen would say that it was launching Cain and the the block closes but nothing happens from there.

On the note of trying JTR, Where would I be able to get that? The more tool I have the better, right? Would I be able to use that on a live operating system or would I have to install it on the regular hard drive?
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Re: Help with backtrack.

Post by limdis on Sun Jan 12, 2014 4:41 pm
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If I remember correctly Backtrack already comes with JTR installed. You'll just to google up on how to use it effectively :geek:
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Re: Help with backtrack.

Post by -Ninjex- on Mon Jan 13, 2014 1:44 am
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limdis wrote:If I remember correctly Backtrack already comes with JTR installed. You'll just to google up on how to use it effectively :geek:


You would indeed be correct.
It's a bit different than Kali though; as you need to go to the correct directory prior to launching the program.
I believe the directory is located as: /pentest/passwords/john
This is where you would execute the program.
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