Building a cipher for a friend.

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Building a cipher for a friend.

Post by NightStalker111 on Sun Apr 05, 2009 7:44 pm
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I wanted to give my friend a little bit of a challenge. I'm solving it in reverse before I give it to them (to make sure it's not too hard) and I am asking for your help.

It's a simple substitution cipher, where each pair of letters represents a single letter; EX: DG = Z (it doesn't btw). It's pretty much a ADFGVX cipher without the keyword. Can you solve it? If you do, can you tell me what you did?

DG VG AF XV VA XA VG AF DG FD XV FG VA VG GX VA VG AF
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Re: Building a cipher for a friend.

Post by godofcereal on Wed Apr 08, 2009 1:29 am
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I can get almost everything but cant figure out what the XV is...clue maybe?
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Re: Building a cipher for a friend.

Post by NightStalker111 on Wed Apr 08, 2009 9:25 pm
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I could tell you if you'd like. But since you asked for a clue, I'll give it to you.

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Re: Building a cipher for a friend.

Post by godofcereal on Thu Apr 09, 2009 3:54 am
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I think I get it. The answer is random letters right? If it isnt Iv gone wrong.
Im off, last year of school and all, I had something longer but char limit fucked that up. So yeah, had a good run here. Thanks for the memories. Thanks to the staff and users.

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p.s. Defience, you the man ;)
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Re: Building a cipher for a friend.

Post by aNewHobby4me on Thu Apr 09, 2009 8:08 am
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godofcereal wrote:I think I get it. The answer is random letters right? If it isnt Iv gone wrong.


No, if random letters were encrypted, the ciphertext would be readable :)

Seriously though, I have made no headway at all. The message is too short for frequency analysis and without the actual word spacing its beyond my limited ability to crack.
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Re: Building a cipher for a friend.

Post by NightStalker111 on Thu Apr 09, 2009 8:36 pm
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That's the problem I've been running into. The original ADFGVX cipher was cracked with very extensive effort and it only could be cracked during times of high traffic. Without knowing somewhat what the message is supposed to say, it's nigh impossible to come up with a reliable/accurate plaintext. At least without a computer.

To top it off, this is only half of the cipher. The second step is to transposition the cipher text to further encrypt the message.

I guess I'll have to move to an easier encryption technique. Or perhaps I'll have to add in some clues. Thanks for trying though fellas, I really appreciate the help.

If you guys want me to post the answer, just tell me. Or I can pm it if you want.
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Re: Building a cipher for a friend.

Post by godofcereal on Fri Apr 10, 2009 3:47 am
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Id like to compare my answer to the correct one.
If Im close or correct Il post what I think about it.
Im off, last year of school and all, I had something longer but char limit fucked that up. So yeah, had a good run here. Thanks for the memories. Thanks to the staff and users.

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